IRC log for #arm-netbook on 20120308

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06:38.21zenitraMmy Melees are now at Madrid with status "Clearance processing complete"
06:38.26zenitraMcrosses fingers
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07:30.20zenitraMwow. it's now "out for delivery". that was fast
08:21.59GumbootzenitraM[away]: Do you know where they came from?
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09:25.50zenitraMGumboot: what? the meles?
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09:59.44mnemocGumboot: shenzhen, but depends on the shipping method the route and time it takes to your home
10:32.45zenitraMmnemoc, Gumboot: on mine according to DHL it comes from some HK address
10:32.54zenitraMalthough it might have to do with espeedpost
10:33.14zenitraMas the shipper is "TOM CUBIE CO LTD"
10:36.06zenitraMmine is already here but apparently DHL refused to give it to my roommate
10:36.15mnemocoh
10:36.25mnemocnothing to pay?
10:36.42mnemocneeds to reconsider his ban to dhl
10:37.37zenitraMidk, they left a notice at the buzón and my roommate is too lazy to go down to get it
10:37.57mnemocbetter get a gf :p
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10:41.36zenitraM...and here's kadaki01, the owner of one of the melees and my other roommate
10:41.50kadaki01Hi everyone :)
10:42.04mnemocfunny to see more and more spaniards here
10:45.30mnemocwonders if there will be an start up (ala geekphone) doing eoma68-based products
10:45.55mnemocs/start up/spanish start-up/
10:47.24zenitraMthat would totally be great
10:51.34mnemocthrows the ball to the madrid representatives of .es :p
10:52.27kadaki01Unfortunately, I don't know half of what you guys know
10:52.38zenitraMwell our end-of-degree project is near :P
10:52.49mnemocexactly my point :)
10:54.38mnemoceoma has great potential in POSs, all-in-one computing and industrial panels for example.... special in countries like spain
10:54.49mnemocs/computing/computers/
10:59.58zenitraMokay bad news
11:00.05zenitraM68,07€ for customs
11:00.34kadaki01shoot
11:00.38mnemocdhl theves
11:01.22mnemocgood to confirm I'm still right about refusing to use that courier
11:04.00mnemocwhat part of those 68€ is taxes and customs and what part for the dhl thieves?
11:04.17zenitraMidk yet
11:22.35zenitraMokay back home
11:22.55zenitraMmnemoc: 31,98€ handling, 30,33 customs
11:24.12mnemocuh, do you live on top of the dhl facility??
11:24.47zenitraMnope, the aviso came from correos and was for another thing
11:25.38zenitraMopening the meel
11:25.38zenitraMmele
11:26.12zenitraM"andriod 2.3 intelligent operating system"
11:26.48zenitraMaccording to the box there's an adapter (not included) which turns the SATA box into a usb 3.0 ext hd
11:32.19zenitraMokay android is a bit difficult to control using the remote control lol
11:42.33zenitraM*too* many chinese apps...
11:47.31zenitraMthere's a firmware update at their site mhmmm
11:47.59zenitraMi doubt they would make you open the device to upgrade its firmware using livesuit
11:49.04zenitraMso… the only explanation is that there is some kind of OTA mechanism
11:49.26mnemoceh? isn't the "right" usb reachable from the outside?
11:49.52zenitraMthere are three usb hosts
11:49.59zenitraMbut i think they don't work or aren't enabled as gadgets
11:50.13zenitraMand then a fourth one inside that seems to be the gadget one
11:51.29zenitraMalthough probably with the right cable the outer ones also work as gadget.
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12:10.29zenitraMokay: good news, it has wifi
12:14.07zenitraMit also has the android market...
12:15.34zenitraMthe firmware is also rooted
12:21.00zenitraMaaand this device has an interesting boot process
12:21.19zenitraMit uses u-boot for normal booting and bImage directly for recovery
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12:22.14CIA-46rhombus-tech: Janusz master * r96184a6c0e34 /allwinner_a10/orders/JanuszKunowski.mdwn:
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12:56.54zenitraMah-ha!
12:57.05zenitraMi found out what phoenix card does
12:57.15zenitraM(that windows tool in chinese)
12:57.41zenitraMit makes a bootable SD which flashes the firmware you put into it
12:57.45zenitraMto the NAND
12:57.47zenitraMapparently
12:58.19zenitraMthis SD is probably bootable from FEL
12:58.46zenitraMand we have the original fw for the mele :)
13:09.00mnemoc:D
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16:02.51*** topic/#arm-netbook is EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook - http://rhombus-tech.net/
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16:31.50zenitraMif you have any summer of code project I as a student can.. well, use it *wink*
16:35.33A2Shedsnot sure if debian has an arm project listed with GSOC
16:35.50A2Shedsbut the STM32 support would be great!
16:44.23CIA-46rhombus-tech: bari master * r6c86441a3b04 /index.html: clarified eoma68 cpu and IO concepts
16:49.35A2Shedscan somebody work on the FAQ in the wiki?  http://rhombus-tech.net/faq/
16:53.40CIA-46rhombus-tech: bari master * rdec476245b7b /faq.mdwn: general cleanup and formatting
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17:20.10A2Shedshttp://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/education/373432/raspberry-pi-delayed-by-manufacturing-hiccup  ouch, yah gotta watch those assemblers for tricks
17:26.23CIA-46rhombus-tech: Grzegorz master * r7ad850f62c13 /allwinner_a10/orders/grzeslaw.mdwn:
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17:41.15mnemocI just press 'r' and chrome completes it to http://rhombus-tech.net.... come on
17:41.38CIA-46rhombus-tech: bari master * r76b22e4367e5 /evaluated_cpus.mdwn:
18:46.41A2Shedshttp://www.techworld.com.au/article/417902/replicant_developer_interview_building_truly_free_android
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20:06.39arokuxI've odered mele from dealextream on 3rd of March and they did not even get it from supplier till now!
20:09.51arokuxbut it's the only place where I can buy it :((
20:10.36CIA-46rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r390676c559f1 /EOMA68-CARD00.64.png: add thumbnail
20:10.47CIA-46rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r0a0203733588 /: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus
20:18.10mnemocarokux: for a new product in DX it may even take a month for them to ship it
20:18.23arokuxwhat?!
20:18.44arokuxcould I ask hipboi to buy me another mele?
20:19.03mnemocarokux: DX is supplier driven, the supplier puts the stuff on the catalog, and some do long before they actually get the products
20:20.30mnemocon any product page at dealextreme.com you search "Listed by Supplier" in it's content to see who and when was it published
20:21.24arokuxListed by Supplier: KtgElectronics, added on 2/29/2012.
20:22.07lkcli've just applied on gsoc2012
20:23.23mnemocarokux: if not "packaging" 2 weeks after paid, file a ticket.... that's how dx works.
20:24.02arokuxmnemoc, could hipboi send a mele to me?
20:25.11mnemocarokux: stay tunned for the next batch.... but he won't get paid by aliexpress for the units of the first batch until they are received
20:26.00arokuxok..
20:26.01CIA-46rhombus-tech: Simon master * r493fb250629f /allwinner_a10/orders/SimonFromGermany.mdwn:
20:26.58zenitraMi just confirmed mine as received so he's paid
20:27.08zenitraMwhere are yours? any tracking news? :P
20:27.49mnemocmine is somewhere between singapore and sweden
20:28.19zenitraMoh well… i hope it doesn't get stopped by customs
20:28.52zenitraMokay
20:29.01zenitraMkadaki01's male already doesn't boot
20:29.11CIA-46rhombus-tech: Simon master * re05ff6c6b69d /allwinner_a10/orders/SimonFromGermany.mdwn:
20:29.12zenitraMand he's done nothing special apart from installing a few apps
20:29.17zenitraMtime to try phoenixcard...
20:30.48CIA-46rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r45d9e88ed7f6 /: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus
20:30.58CIA-46rhombus-tech: lkcl master * rc97f2a675c4a /gsoc2012.mdwn: add gsoc2012 blank page
20:33.14CIA-46rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r4a612b1d7417 /gsoc2012.mdwn:
20:45.39zenitraMgood news for software tinkerers: the mele is surprisingly easy to open.
20:46.20CIA-46rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r815091726082 /gsoc2012.mdwn: first revision gsoc2012 application
20:46.24CIA-46rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r7bf7b3286edb /gsoc2012/ideas.mdwn: add ideas page
20:46.24CIA-46rhombus-tech: lkcl master * rf38bbbc113ed /: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus
20:46.38lkclneed help
20:46.53lkclhttp://rhombus-tech.net/gsoc2012/
20:54.18A2ShedsI'll fill it out later today
20:54.31A2Shedslkcl: ca you setup a repo?
20:54.44A2Shedslkcl: I'll start up the wiki pages about it
20:55.18A2Shedseven if we don't get picked for GSOC we need to organize this
20:55.45A2Shedswho would like to sign up as mentors?
20:56.39A2Shedshttp://wiki.laptop.org/go/OpenEC
20:56.58A2Shedshttp://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/libopenstm32-a-free-software-firmware-library-for-stm32-arm-cortex-m3-microcontrollers
20:57.14A2Shedshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTEMS
20:57.39A2Shedsgetting this all working on ST STM32 and NXP LPC17xx
20:58.02A2Shedsor at least started  :)
20:58.11lkclhttp://rhombus-tech.net/gsoc2012/ideas/
20:58.33A2Shedsok
20:58.58A2ShedsI'll fill that wiki up in a few hours  :)
21:02.28CIA-46rhombus-tech: bari master * r80b4cf11b281 /index.html:
21:02.48A2ShedszenitraM was already asking about signing up as a student to work on the project
21:03.00A2Shedsif it gets approved
21:03.42lkclgreat!
21:04.01lkclA2Sheds: would you be willing to mentor people to do actual hardware I/O board designs?
21:04.25lkcllike... 2-layer jobbies for a tablet, with an STM32F on them and a few connectors?
21:04.29lkcletc. etc
21:04.34A2Shedshardware engineering? or
21:04.42lkclyes hardware engineering
21:05.20A2Shedsheh, I don't think I'd survive, I'd rather just provide the designs that people can edit if they wish  :)
21:05.27lkclif not i can always ask the leaflabs maple people
21:05.30lkclha ha
21:05.48A2ShedsI'll be posting all kinds of things
21:05.57lkclit does need a certain kind of patience :)
21:07.11A2Shedsto do it right you need some background and experience, the problem is that the 20 somethings are all experts until the screw things up and then they are ready to listen :)
21:09.15A2Shedsget off my lawn
21:14.28lkclooarrr get off moii laaaaand
21:22.55A2Shedshehe
21:24.03A2Shedslkcl: just FYI by the end of this year we are going to be able to inkjet multilayer PCB's faster than you can make them by today's plating methods
21:25.35A2Shedsthe traces and boards will be entirely printed with fluids vs machined boards, plated, bonded etc
21:26.07A2Shedsembedded caps and resistors will be easy
21:26.08lkclsuperb!
21:26.09lkclwow
21:26.13CIA-46rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r4cae7165c0f0 /index.html: whitespace cleanup
21:26.14lkclwow
21:27.18A2Shedsyou'll be able to go from CAD to ready to solder PCB in a few minutes
21:30.30lkclbloody ell
23:46.08zenitraMoh.. great
23:46.13zenitraMi think my mele is faulty :(
23:53.34zenitraMit suddenly decided not to boot anymore
23:53.41zenitraMand it seems like it is constantly rebooting itself

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