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| 10:55.00 | mnemoc | wee... libvirt/kvm also supports adding usb devices to live machines :D |
| 10:55.42 | mnemoc | very hidden, but it's there |
| 10:58.53 | hipboi | just found an interesting website |
| 10:58.55 | hipboi | http://hatepaste.com |
| 10:59.36 | mnemoc | nice name :) |
| 11:01.17 | mnemoc | http://hatepaste.com/paste/83e7bcd5 <---- /me hates this too! |
| 11:01.28 | mnemoc | this is fun |
| 11:02.20 | hipboi | i think this one written by girl is funny |
| 11:02.22 | hipboi | http://hatepaste.com/paste/f2a4921d |
| 11:03.31 | mnemoc | :D |
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| 11:56.02 | mnemoc | zenitraM[away]: did you find the source of the 16M limit? |
| 12:05.19 | mnemoc | for the records my mele a1000 got posted today on the sweeden post office in singapore! :p |
| 12:06.16 | CIA-46 | rhombus-tech: Mi master * r9d250dd86ecb /allwinner_a10/orders/mi2.mdwn: |
| 12:07.27 | mnemoc | so my thesis of faster shipping flying over the artic pole went to hell |
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| 12:19.11 | hno | hipboi__, have you tried feeding that "girl code" to g++ -O2? x86 version is http://fpaste.org/Wak6/ |
| 12:20.50 | hipboi__ | hno: interesting |
| 12:21.06 | hno | 32-bit version http://fpaste.org/ZLww/ |
| 12:31.02 | mnemoc | a good compiler isn't an excuse for bad code... |
| 12:47.08 | hno | mnemoc, bad is a matter of definition. My point is it's better to write correct code than trying to overoptimize beyond ones capabilities. |
| 12:49.49 | mnemoc | hno: sure, but adding breaks after returns and ignoring how switch/case works is not about overoptimizing but about not knowing the language |
| 12:51.12 | hno | True. |
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| 13:28.40 | zenitraM | mnemoc: the limit is just that the partition is 16mb on nand |
| 13:29.01 | zenitraM | the problem is, kernel doesn't recognize it as being 16mb but 128mb and writes outside the limits |
| 13:29.02 | mnemoc | so the kernel is detecting the partition wrong? |
| 13:29.06 | zenitraM | exactly |
| 13:29.09 | mnemoc | doh |
| 13:29.11 | mnemoc | not nice |
| 13:29.20 | mnemoc | fskc? :) |
| 13:29.29 | zenitraM | mmm that might work |
| 13:29.51 | zenitraM | i'm not sure if the FAT actually stores the size of the partition |
| 13:30.22 | zenitraM | booting... (also hoping android has fsck) |
| 13:30.53 | zenitraM | my mele's now appear on dhl website.. hope they don't take too long |
| 13:32.59 | zenitraM | d'oh, no fsck on android :( |
| 13:33.11 | zenitraM | so.. let's dd it out to a linux machine :P |
| 13:34.20 | hno | my mele shows up at the Swedish Post tracking site as well. |
| 13:34.43 | hno | Estimated time of delivery: |
| 13:34.43 | hno | At the earliest 7 mar |
| 13:35.01 | zenitraM | that'd be *fast* for something coming from China |
| 13:35.25 | zenitraM | hell it'd be faster than something coming from UK to Spain |
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| 13:35.50 | zenitraM | okay |
| 13:36.26 | zenitraM | got a image of the boot partition, mounted it as loopback on linux.. detected as 128mb, so the problem is on the partition itself |
| 13:36.49 | zenitraM | fsck doesn't care about the size and just completes |
| 13:37.56 | zenitraM | probably the FW packing tool makes a fat image of size 128mb to put things inside.. and then just trims it |
| 13:37.57 | hno | yes, FAT do embed the partition size in it's records. So do all filesystems actually. |
| 13:38.20 | zenitraM | so how could i fix those records? |
| 13:38.31 | hno | doesn't gparted resize FAT? |
| 13:38.49 | zenitraM | installing it |
| 13:39.05 | zenitraM | although i doubt it would work for a loopback file of the partition with no partition table al all |
| 13:39.19 | hno | Should work. |
| 13:39.36 | zenitraM | nope |
| 13:39.49 | zenitraM | (parted) print |
| 13:39.49 | zenitraM | Model: (file) |
| 13:39.49 | zenitraM | Disk /HD/zenitram/ainol/nanda_boot: 16,8MB |
| 13:39.49 | zenitraM | Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B |
| 13:39.49 | zenitraM | Partition Table: msdos |
| 13:39.50 | zenitraM | Number Start End Size Type File system Flags |
| 13:40.05 | zenitraM | tries to find a partition table, there is none |
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| 13:43.02 | CIA-46 | rhombus-tech: Antonio master * rdffe9e57a761 /allwinner_a10/orders/toto.mdwn: |
| 13:44.02 | zenitraM | …i guess i gotta hand-edit the fat header with an hex editor |
| 13:44.19 | hno | Hmm.. mine finds the filesystem but refuses to resize it. |
| 13:44.51 | zenitraM | what are you trying with? |
| 13:45.24 | hno | gparted /dev/loop0 |
| 13:45.48 | hno | with just an empty fat16 filesystem. |
| 13:46.22 | hno | no, fails on any action. |
| 13:47.25 | zenitraM | i have no x11 on this machine from here.. but parted shows nothing, just an empty part. table |
| 13:50.29 | hno | zenitraM, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Filesystems-HOWTO-3.html |
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| 14:16.55 | hno | seems parted have dropped the ability to resize fileystems in version 2.4 or newer. |
| 14:18.14 | hno | wonder what happened with that functionality. |
| 14:20.06 | zenitraM | well, my debian stable has Parted 2.3 |
| 14:20.10 | zenitraM | so that shouldn't be a problem |
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| 14:48.13 | zenitraM | DHL SMS notifications work lol :P |
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| 14:48.21 | zenitraM | melees picked from HK |
| 14:48.21 | CIA-46 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * rd82522c706f1 /: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus |
| 14:49.05 | zenitraM | Ship From: |
| 14:49.06 | zenitraM | TOM CUBIE CO LTD |
| 14:49.24 | zenitraM | lol :) |
| 14:58.54 | CIA-46 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * rb6c420e84fd6 /allwinner_a10/pcb.mdwn: |
| 15:06.58 | zenitraM | …and the funniest thing |
| 15:07.07 | zenitraM | according to this email, for DHL my name is "," |
| 15:10.29 | CIA-46 | rhombus-tech: pier master * ra6e298faa25d /allwinner_a10/orders/pier.mdwn: |
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| 16:24.37 | mnemoc | wth is "Andrea" doing there? |
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| 16:51.36 | mikey_w | Is the Zenithink C71 ZT280 a suitable allwinner type device? |
| 17:17.56 | lkcl | mikey_w: do you have any links to its CPU? |
| 17:18.04 | lkcl | what SoC is it? |
| 17:19.04 | lkcl | zenithink are a tablet design house |
| 17:21.43 | mnemoc | mikey_w: allwinner is not a "type" of device, is a nice company that makes a nice and inexpensive SoC |
| 17:23.21 | zenitraM | mikey_w: if it has an A10, yes, it is. |
| 17:28.21 | zenitraM | although google tells me it doesn't |
| 17:28.39 | zenitraM | (1) Create a new directory and name it as "zt-update". |
| 17:28.39 | zenitraM | (2) Put the firmware which you get or download into "zt-update". |
| 17:28.40 | zenitraM | (3) Put the TF card into TF card slot, then press the "Volume Minus" button at the same time to press the power-on button, then operate as per the reminders shown on the screen, the machine will be installed the firmware and then reboot. |
| 17:28.49 | zenitraM | A10 don't have that nice kind of update process |
| 17:40.03 | mikey_w | ok, thanks. It is a "Spark" tablet clone that's available and much cheaper. |
| 17:45.04 | lkcl | right - ok, yes if it's the same as the "spark" tablet then it's an AML-8726-M. |
| 17:45.14 | lkcl | AMLogic cost us a lot of money, and are GPL violators. |
| 17:48.01 | mikey_w | Most tablet manufacturers violate the GPL. |
| 17:48.40 | zenitraM | even allwinner. |
| 17:48.45 | lkcl | yes, but there aren't many *SoC* manufacturers that are that fucking stupid as to violate the GPL. AMLogic is one of them |
| 17:48.59 | lkcl | no, allwinner released all GPL source code immediately on request. |
| 17:49.11 | mikey_w | ok |
| 17:49.13 | lkcl | and we hadn't even been given any binaries |
| 17:49.25 | zenitraM | not the 3.0.8 kernel |
| 17:49.32 | lkcl | it was amazing, and it's why we're ... |
| 17:49.42 | lkcl | .... ok, have they actually distributed 3.0.8 to you? |
| 17:49.51 | lkcl | have they distributed _binaries_ to anyone? |
| 17:50.02 | zenitraM | i have on the top of my table |
| 17:50.11 | zenitraM | a tablet with an ICS firmware with the 3.0.8 kernel |
| 17:50.21 | lkcl | because remember, under the GPL you can *only* get the GPL source code from the person who gave you the binaries. |
| 17:50.34 | lkcl | ok, then you need to ask the person who sold you the tablet. |
| 17:50.38 | lkcl | you *can't* go ask allwinner. |
| 17:50.47 | lkcl | or the ODM that they gave it to. |
| 17:50.49 | lkcl | or the factory. |
| 17:50.55 | lkcl | or the factory's china supplier |
| 17:51.05 | lkcl | or the distributor |
| 17:51.05 | zenitraM | mmm, right then |
| 17:51.12 | lkcl | or the UK distributor |
| 17:51.22 | lkcl | or even the warehouse manager of the UK distributor |
| 17:51.35 | lkcl | it *has* to be the person you *actually* got the binaries from. |
| 17:51.44 | lkcl | they then have to go ask the warehouse manager |
| 17:51.52 | lkcl | the warehouse manager has to ask the distributor |
| 17:51.57 | lkcl | the distributor has to ask the importer |
| 17:52.03 | lkcl | the importer has to ask the china supplier |
| 17:52.10 | lkcl | the china supplier has to ask the factory |
| 17:52.11 | zenitraM | the tablet came with a 2.6.36 (gingerbread) based firmware |
| 17:52.14 | lkcl | the factory has to ask the ODM |
| 17:52.16 | zenitraM | the 3.0.8 kenel is from their site |
| 17:52.19 | lkcl | the ODM has to ask the SoC vendor |
| 17:52.33 | zenitraM | enough for the example, i got it :) |
| 17:52.46 | lkcl | you see how absolutely horrendous this is? |
| 17:52.51 | lkcl | yeah i'm done anyway :) |
| 17:53.04 | lkcl | i type quick |
| 17:53.30 | zenitraM | soo.. let's fire a GPL request to Ainol |
| 17:53.51 | mikey_w | ROTFL |
| 17:53.52 | zenitraM | well, first of all, let's find the "ENGLISH" button on Ainol's website |
| 17:55.53 | zenitraM | found it. http://old.ainol.com/english/Ainol%20English%20Web.html |
| 17:56.04 | zenitraM | "DIGITAL REDER: more the fast" |
| 17:56.46 | zenitraM | *sighs* oh, china. |
| 18:11.27 | zenitraM | i doubt i'll get any answer… although.. there was a spanish company that was going to begin selling an A10 tablet here in Spain under their brand name |
| 18:11.44 | zenitraM | mhm… that could be an easy target |
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| 18:12.54 | CIA-46 | rhombus-tech: Hello, my friends ! The computer processor-based on Allwinner A10 worth $ 30 is |
| 18:12.54 | CIA-46 | rhombus-tech: a fake? |
| 18:12.54 | CIA-46 | rhombus-tech: http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale/wholesale-allwinner-a10-tablet-pc.html?SearchText=allwinner%2Ba10%2Btablet%2Bpc&CatId=0&SortType=price_asc&SortType=y&filterCat=100005062,70803003,100005072 |
| 18:13.32 | mnemoc | nice trick to spam the channel :-/ |
| 18:14.46 | zenitraM | mmm why do people put URLs on their order titles? |
| 18:14.46 | zenitraM | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/orders/http:__47____47__electronix.ru__47__forum__47__index.php__63__showtopic__61__96902/ |
| 18:15.35 | mnemoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.43 | mnemoc | but spamers |
| 18:15.49 | zenitraM | well… i'm not sure... |
| 18:16.04 | zenitraM | look here: http://electronix.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=96902 |
| 18:16.22 | zenitraM | seems like a legit forum thread about the raspberry (and in the 2nd page they mention EOMA) |
| 18:16.57 | mnemoc | .oO |
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| 19:40.33 | ManoftheSea | who is CIA-46 ? |
| 19:42.32 | ManoftheSea | and what is it talking about? |
| 19:43.31 | mnemoc | is a bot that notifies the commits to the wiki's repository |
| 19:43.45 | mnemoc | s/^/it / |
| 19:49.26 | lkcl | ManoftheSea: some people asked if we could be notified whenever someone changes something on the wiki. it turns out to have been quite easy to add. |
| 19:50.14 | ManoftheSea | so... what's this about the fake thing? |
| 19:50.31 | CIA-46 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r3b099995bd2c /allwinner_a10/pcb.mdwn: |
| 19:51.00 | ManoftheSea | Oh, it repeated someone else's spam? |
| 19:52.08 | mnemoc | yup :) |
| 19:53.16 | mnemoc | most of the commits are good honest changes to the wiki.... unfortunatelly there are exceptions |
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| 22:50.34 | mnemoc | coooooonnnnneeeeeeccccccttttooooorrrrssss |
| 23:11.27 | lkcl | connectors! |
| 23:12.11 | lkcl | mnemoc: qingpei's actually found what we need. the only thing left to do is |
| 23:12.22 | lkcl | a) get the photos and samples |
| 23:12.54 | lkcl | b) compare them against the pricing of what the factory has found (they've found a micro usb ab connector from a competitor) |
| 23:13.09 | mnemoc | awesome news :D |
| 23:14.23 | fil | lkcl: BTW I note that you've disabled the blogspam plugin -- is that just because it was getting too many false positives? |
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