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| 03:16.43 | eduprey | lkcl: mnemoc: have you guys used yocto before? looks like it would really useful for making embedded distributions for a10/eoma boards |
| 05:16.07 | hipboi | what's the relationship between yocto and openembedded? |
| 05:20.34 | eduprey | hipboi: this explains some of it http://www.yoctoproject.org/projects/openembedded-core |
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| 05:25.26 | ka6sox | evening |
| 05:28.24 | eduprey | ka6sox: hey, welcome. |
| 05:28.29 | ka6sox | hiya |
| 05:28.53 | ka6sox | thought I'd drop in...busy setting up a new Yocto Env. |
| 05:29.03 | ka6sox | waiting for things to come in |
| 05:29.17 | eduprey | A2Sheds: lkcl: ka6sox works on webos-internals that I was telling you about as well as with sysadmining for OSUOSL and other things. I was telling him about EOMA |
| 05:30.18 | eduprey | ka6sox: I had just brought up yocto here as well after hearing about it today |
| 05:30.40 | eduprey | pretty quiet at the moment (probably mostly due to time zones of developers) |
| 05:30.59 | ka6sox | its nice... |
| 05:31.14 | ka6sox | designed for cross development... |
| 05:31.17 | ka6sox | which is nice too |
| 05:31.32 | ka6sox | native can be tough if you have to build a whole distro. |
| 05:32.08 | eduprey | though I do want to build that 1U cluster of EOMA-CF boxes, cross compilation probably makes more sense for most :) |
| 05:32.51 | ka6sox | the issue is both RAM and speed for HD |
| 05:33.15 | ka6sox | or network based HD |
| 05:35.38 | eduprey | ka6sox: things should get exciting here in a few weeks when the first EOMA cards come out. unfortunately a lot of people seem to be thinking of EOMA (if they've heard about it) as another raspberry pi which isn't it at all |
| 05:37.24 | ka6sox | I am avoiding the Pi...not gonna drink that KoolAid |
| 05:38.03 | eduprey | I mean yeah the first EOMA68 card is going to be a cheap cortex-a8 but the fact that it can be used in products (or DIY boards) or in projects you might otherwise use a microcontroller in as well as just being able to buy a tablet that you can plug a card in and then plug a better card into it later for a fraction of the cost of buying a new box (or take that same card and plug it into your... |
| 05:38.05 | eduprey | ...HDTV or whatever) is huge |
| 05:38.14 | eduprey | ka6sox: oh yeah Broadcom -- it's a trap |
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| 10:45.22 | lkcl | ka6sox: ah cool, nice to meet you. i'm a big fan of turning OSes on their head. i'm the lead developer of pythonwebkit and pyjamas. |
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| 17:09.54 | A2Sheds | eduprey: yes, hello ka6sox |
| 17:39.06 | A2Sheds | the same ka6sox i used to see in #beagle? |
| 17:49.01 | ka6sox | A2Sheds, yup |
| 17:49.40 | ka6sox | lkcl, turning OS's on their head is lots of fun....make'em do what YOU want :D |
| 17:51.20 | A2Sheds | maybe we can start a page where people can vote on what cpu or features they'd like to see in future EOMA cards |
| 17:52.00 | A2Sheds | we already have the developers idea page |
| 17:55.06 | ka6sox | the Proc in the Bone would seem to be a natural one too as its cheap D: |
| 17:55.20 | ka6sox | and fairly easy to lay out for. |
| 17:57.27 | A2Sheds | http://rhombus-tech.net./am335x/ |
| 17:58.13 | A2Sheds | I brought that one up, but TI isn't exactly open to new business |
| 17:59.45 | A2Sheds | I asked them about the OMAP4430/OMAP4460, but they ignored my request |
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| 19:49.40 | mnemoc | hi, can anyone try to run PhoenixCard and document how the card needs to "look like" in order to boot an a10 machine? |
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| 21:05.05 | ManoftheSea | NAK |
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| 22:03.07 | A3Sheds | http://techreport.com/discussions.x/22412 AMD to go 'ambidextrous,' grow another ARM? |
| 22:04.15 | gordan | LOL |
| 22:04.37 | A3Sheds | maybe we will see ARM by AMD |
| 22:04.56 | A3Sheds | I'll see what I can find out |
| 22:05.15 | gordan | There has been suggestion that AMD may well end up standing for ARM Micro Devices. :) |
| 22:38.05 | ka6sox | the 3358 is kind of nice |
| 22:38.23 | ka6sox | not the zippiest thing |
| 22:45.09 | gordan | Hmm... Unless the article here is wrong, it implies that Vivante GC600 supports OpenGL 3.0 and OpenGL ES 2.0. |
| 22:45.26 | gordan | If only we had OSS drivers for it... |
| 22:45.36 | gordan | We could play Quake 4 on these things! :D |
| 22:54.50 | A3Sheds | I told Marvell that we would happily provide them with drivers for free and lifetime support if they provide us with the docs |
| 22:55.18 | A3Sheds | so far, no response after 1 week |
| 22:55.19 | gordan | I'm guessing they didn't even respond. |
| 22:55.25 | gordan | Predictable. |
| 22:55.31 | A3Sheds | they bit 18 months ago |
| 22:55.41 | A3Sheds | I just didn't follow up |
| 22:56.07 | A3Sheds | they admitted that they aren't a software co, but are a semiconductor co |
| 22:56.52 | A3Sheds | I told them we would support them even if we don't use their parts for an EOMA card |
| 22:57.13 | gordan | That would be quite awesome. |
| 22:57.40 | A3Sheds | I went through the rep firm here so they would have incentive to follow through |
| 22:57.46 | gordan | The problem is that I'm not sure they CAN open up the docs. |
| 22:57.51 | dyoung | Isnt Lennert still at Marvell? |
| 22:58.10 | A3Sheds | the CEO of Marvell is on the board at Vivante |
| 22:58.18 | gordan | If they licensed the GPU, then it is quite plausible that the GPU IP owner is somebody else and they would have to OK the opening up of the spec. |
| 22:58.28 | gordan | Ah, OK, fair. |
| 22:58.56 | A3Sheds | http://www.vivantecorp.com/our_team.html |
| 23:00.50 | A3Sheds | or was last year |
| 23:02.55 | A3Sheds | http://www.google.com/finance?cid=664838 here's the real news |
| 23:06.49 | A3Sheds | it was funny, they actually asked me "why we would support their parts even if we don't end up buying them?" |
| 23:07.00 | A3Sheds | they just didn't understand |
| 23:07.18 | gordan | LOL! |
| 23:07.27 | gordan | "Because that's what us OSS people do." :) |
| 23:08.27 | A3Sheds | I told that some of the devs just sleep better at night knowing that the drivers actually work |
| 23:34.04 | ka6sox | most of the GPUs seem to be 3rd party implementations (or things like openCL gles2 etc are...and licensed IP. |
| 23:34.09 | ka6sox | ) |
| 23:53.59 | A3Sheds | ka6sox: Luc verhagen has reversed the Mali and is releasing open drivers |
| 23:55.17 | A3Sheds | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=arm_mali_reverse&num=1 https://lwn.net/Articles/478030/ |
| 23:56.17 | A3Sheds | http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/mali |