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| 12:43.23 | zecrazytux | looks like my battery is fucked up |
| 12:43.35 | zecrazytux | very low battery lifetime |
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| 18:07.27 | mnemoc | fjp: hi, to test the toolchain, what branch of the kernel tree should i use? |
| 18:09.50 | SQlvpapir | ah I get it. red light is only on when a) battery is charging and/or b) machine is on |
| 18:10.23 | SQlvpapir | quiet nice to have it indicate weather battery is fully charged or not |
| 18:10.53 | SQlvpapir | beh my spelling.. |
| 18:30.14 | fjp | mnemoc: What do you mean by test the toolchain? |
| 18:30.51 | mnemoc | fjp: compile a kernel and see if the result runs |
| 18:30.53 | fjp | SQlvpapir: Actually, there are two red leds: right is power, left is charging |
| 18:31.20 | fjp | Current working branch is ct-pc89e/2.6.24/from-smartq |
| 18:33.51 | mnemoc | fjp: thanks, and a "keyword" to search the ML for the instructions to make a bundle uboot likes? |
| 18:36.46 | SQlvpapir | fjp, can you tell the difference? all I see is a read glow in both cases. might notice a difference now you've said that though |
| 18:42.26 | fjp | mnemoc: Kernel and Debian Installer -- how to do it yourself |
| 18:42.55 | fjp | SQlvpapir: I only really noticed yesterday or so, but once you know you can tell |
| 18:43.19 | mnemoc | fjp: cool, thanks |
| 19:52.47 | lkcl | SQlvpapir: battery charging includes flipping a GPIO pin which is used on a multiplexing input on the only A2D converter on the S3C6410. |
| 19:53.36 | lkcl | SQlvpapir: there are two LEDs. you can tell charging by disconnecting then you will see the left of the two LEDs go on. it's a little unclear, i know. |
| 20:05.05 | fjp | lkcl: I've looked at mmc issue again and things are a lot clearer, but I've still not been able to get something working. |
| 20:05.11 | lkcl | hmmm. |
| 20:05.27 | fjp | It would be good if we could sit down and look at this together some time. |
| 20:05.49 | fjp | I'd prefer an IRC session over trying to put it all in a mail. |
| 20:06.28 | fjp | Or skype maybe. |
| 20:11.35 | mnemoc | paste the irc log on a mail :p |
| 20:11.45 | mnemoc | the revenge against top-posters! |
| 20:12.44 | lkcl | ok. |
| 20:12.45 | lkcl | yes. |
| 20:13.01 | lkcl | i have a rescue mission for a couple of friends' machines to do |
| 20:13.10 | lkcl | saturday i am in guilford |
| 20:13.32 | lkcl | sunday is good. |
| 20:13.47 | fjp | OK |
| 20:14.50 | lkcl | i was out today. did some more pins on the SO-DIMM, though. haven't found the USB (or maybe i have - not sure) or the Address/Data bus yet |
| 20:15.06 | mnemoc | fjp: what do you use as defconfig? |
| 20:15.26 | mnemoc | fjp: i can't find any in your d-i repo or in the git... |
| 20:17.52 | fjp | mnemoc: It's in the kernel package on alioth. |
| 20:18.11 | fjp | Or, if you've already installed that: /boot/config-.... |
| 20:19.23 | mnemoc | i haven't flashed mine yet... but i'll get the .deb, thanks for the hint |
| 20:47.49 | mnemoc | fjp: http://npaste.de/OT/ <--- familiar? |
| 20:50.45 | mnemoc | /tmp/ccbppXHu.s:2667: Error: symbol `read_page_mnemoc' is already defined yuck yuck |
| 20:53.02 | lkcl | yaay - found the data bus on the SO-DIMM |
| 20:57.30 | mnemoc | \o/ |
| 21:11.30 | fjp | mnemoc: I've just pushed the fix for that |
| 21:13.54 | mnemoc | looks |
| 21:14.01 | mnemoc | 0... |
| 21:15.26 | lkcl | yaay found the right-hand GL850G SO-DIMM USB2 data bus pins... |
| 21:15.59 | mnemoc | lkcl: does you board have 4 connectors in the back? |
| 21:16.02 | mnemoc | are they usb? |
| 21:17.24 | mnemoc | i have one "spare" 5 wire connector that smells like touch screen, and another spare at the left of the kb, which smells like the usb for the camera |
| 21:17.39 | mnemoc | fjp: it's working! thanks! |
| 21:17.49 | lkcl | 4 connectors in the back? beh? |
| 21:18.19 | lkcl | component-side do you mean? |
| 21:18.27 | lkcl | or the mostly-empty side? |
| 21:18.36 | mnemoc | mostly empty side |
| 21:18.42 | mnemoc | where you plug the kb and touchpad |
| 21:19.55 | mnemoc | i have one spare with 5 pins and one spare identical to the one of the touchpad but at the other side |
| 21:20.51 | mnemoc | the 5pin one is almost where the vga controller is (but on the other side) |
| 21:20.53 | lkcl | i'm guessing the one on the other side of the touchpad is SIM card. |
| 21:20.54 | lkcl | yes. |
| 21:21.07 | lkcl | look more closely at it - you'll see that two of the pins are connected together |
| 21:21.16 | lkcl | that makes it a 4-pin jobbie |
| 21:21.23 | lkcl | which makes it far more likely that it's USB |
| 21:21.26 | mnemoc | oh, right |
| 21:21.54 | mnemoc | and the ribbon been usb for the sim card |
| 21:22.03 | lkcl | no - sim cards are NOT usb. |
| 21:22.12 | lkcl | they have a special 6-wire interface. |
| 21:22.15 | lkcl | http://elinux.org/index.php?title=CT-PC89E_SO-DIMM |
| 21:22.23 | lkcl | i have about 10% of the lines already! |
| 21:22.42 | mnemoc | what a job you are doing there :p |
| 21:22.53 | lkcl | actually more like 20% |
| 21:22.56 | lkcl | he he |
| 21:23.46 | lkcl | mnemoc - actually, do you have a hi-res camera and a good light? preferably a macro function? |
| 21:24.23 | mnemoc | cheap sony and cheap benq, but both with macro function |
| 21:24.45 | mnemoc | no good light, have to wait for tomorrow to shot it |
| 21:25.01 | mnemoc | what do you need? |
| 21:25.03 | lkcl | loovely. would you be able to take the SO-dimm out, photograph the SO-DIMM socket, then use gimp to mark every 5th pin with a red line? |
| 21:25.22 | mnemoc | ok |
| 21:25.27 | lkcl | on the *inner* side, the one that's inside the plastic |
| 21:25.38 | mnemoc | yes |
| 21:25.44 | lkcl | and hidden by the photo IMG_3142.jpg that jon took |
| 21:26.04 | mnemoc | i'll try to get a decent picture tomorrow |
| 21:26.18 | mnemoc | btw, less iso is better or worse for these things? |
| 21:26.28 | mnemoc | i have never pictured chips/boards beofre |
| 21:26.49 | lkcl | treat pin 1 as the one on the left with the arrow, and mark pin 5 as number "9", 10 as "19" and if you get it right, the _very_ last pin should be "199" |
| 21:27.10 | lkcl | it really doesn't matter, as long as it's sharp. |
| 21:27.40 | mnemoc | the last time i tried it was pretty fuzzy, regardless the flower |
| 21:27.56 | mnemoc | but i'll try to get something clear tomorrow morning |
| 21:28.14 | lkcl | thank you :) |
| 21:28.29 | mnemoc | yw |
| 21:28.34 | lkcl | just as a "safety" check: when you get half-way, to the pin marked "99" |
| 21:28.54 | mnemoc | having the picture i'll read this log again :p |
| 21:29.22 | mnemoc | and poke you for confirmation i'm doing right |
| 21:29.27 | lkcl | you _shouuuuld_ see that the pin to its left, which we'll call "97" has a track that leads to a plane that runs along-side the other pins for about 9mm or so. that's a ground plane |
| 21:29.31 | lkcl | ok - good idea |
| 21:29.46 | lkcl | i really should have stopped doing this, an hour ago :) |
| 21:29.53 | lkcl | beh |
| 21:30.14 | mnemoc | i wash cars for living (no kidding), don't expect me to remember all these for tomorrow :p |
| 21:30.48 | mnemoc | god bless the logs |
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