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| 08:07.48 | fabz | Howdy me again |
| 08:07.49 | fabz | :) |
| 08:08.38 | fabz | anyways so turns out my tftp wasnt running, although i thought it was ( ALso noticed ubuntu 10.04 has changed a bit in the way services are stopped and started etc. anyways no biggie |
| 08:09.05 | fabz | thing is now im getting a message saying only absolute filenames |
| 08:09.23 | fabz | will run it again a bit later to get the exact error codes and stuff |
| 08:09.52 | fabz | but does this ring any bells? honestly everything was working prior to upgrading to 10.04, so something has changed |
| 08:09.53 | fabz | :( |
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| 10:50.59 | Nirkus | hehe |
| 10:51.22 | Nirkus | fabz: youre getting an error message from which component at which point saying what about absolute filenames? |
| 10:54.19 | fabz | PXE-T02 |
| 10:54.36 | fabz | when the client trys to connect to tftpd |
| 10:55.01 | fabz | then there is also PXE-E3C |
| 10:55.13 | fabz | "tftp error - access violation" |
| 10:55.25 | fabz | :) |
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| 11:51.21 | fabz | "PXE-T02: Only absolute filenames allowed" |
| 11:51.32 | fabz | sorry I misread what you had said earlier |
| 11:51.41 | fabz | ;) |
| 11:52.15 | fabz | i thought perhaps permissions might be the issue, have set 777 through out everything needed, same thing happens |
| 11:52.47 | fabz | lucky for me it aint urgent, so sorta have a look at it inbetween work |
| 11:52.50 | fabz | ;) |
| 13:57.12 | Nirkus | fabz: tried finding the log messages of your TFTP daemon? |
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| 20:05.31 | GGD_work | question how or where can i find the how to for "nesting" pxe menus? |
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| 21:02.38 | Nirkus | GGD_work: you mean menus provided by the PXE client/server protocol? |
| 21:03.19 | Nirkus | like provided by the NIC option ROM by using data from PXE servers, nut just DHCP daemons? |
| 21:04.15 | Nirkus | GGD_work: or are you just looking for howtos on making boot menus with RIS/pxelinux/grub2/.. |
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| 21:43.49 | Haraken | my pxe boot setup recently stopped working, when attempting to boot a server I receive "No DHCP offers or proxy offers received" |
| 21:44.11 | Haraken | rebooting the netboot server got one client to net boot, but then they stopped working again :/ |
| 21:44.48 | Haraken | any ideas on things I could check? |
| 21:51.46 | Nirkus | Haraken: somehow your clients dont get the DHCP/PXE anweser or not in time. check the load and logs of your netboot server and check for intervening switches as well |
| 21:52.18 | Nirkus | Haraken: running wireshark on your netboot server parallel to booting clients may help |
| 21:52.48 | Haraken | load is 0.00 |
| 21:53.38 | Haraken | we recently installed an hp switch to replace a dead dlink switch, I'm wondering if that has anything to do with it |
| 21:54.37 | Nirkus | Haraken: procurve switches often provide an internal logging facilit |
| 21:54.41 | Nirkus | facility |
| 21:55.15 | Haraken | I'll have to head down to the datacenter and see what switch and ports it is plugged into, meanwhile I am going to see if i can get anything going with wireshark |
| 21:55.18 | Nirkus | Haraken: the switch may be blocking DHCP packets from clients or the server for some reason or just take to long to negotiate a link with your clients |
| 21:57.21 | Haraken | is there a command line version of wireshark? |
| 21:57.26 | Haraken | by any chance :) |
| 21:59.19 | Haraken | ah tshark |
| 22:00.30 | Nirkus | :) |
| 22:01.01 | Haraken | I don't use wireshark/tshark very often. Is there a way to filter out just the dhcp stuff that I would need to see? |
| 22:01.33 | Nirkus | Haraken: try "dhcp" :9 |
| 22:03.52 | Haraken | trying "tshark -R bootp" |
| 22:04.36 | Haraken | sweet I'm getting some info but I have no idea what it means |
| 22:04.51 | Haraken | I'll paste in a pastebin once it is done |
| 22:05.57 | Haraken | when trying to boot a client i saw this http://pastebin.com/PHJ5MV1H |
| 22:07.19 | Nirkus | Haraken: your DHCP server does not seem to answer |
| 22:07.55 | Haraken | hmm |
| 22:08.18 | Haraken | I'm seeing some other stuff pop up that it is answering to |
| 22:09.17 | Haraken | well actually I don't know if it is answering, I'll paste that as well. I guess if the dhcp server isn't answering the next thing to do would be to diagnose that since we know the pxe server is receiving the requests |
| 22:09.47 | Haraken | http://pastebin.com/Mi57WH8L |
| 22:09.59 | Nirkus | Haraken: maybe someone changed the configuration and forgot to restart, so you changed the running config by restarting it? :) |
| 22:10.57 | Haraken | I'm the only one that works on this and I haven't changed the configuration in some time, but I have tried to restart it a few times |
| 22:12.31 | Nirkus | Haraken: look at the logs of your DHCP server |
| 22:12.47 | Nirkus | maybe it already tells you why its not answering your PXEClients |
| 22:14.01 | Haraken | ok, gonna try again so I can verify from a certain time |
| 22:14.45 | Haraken | restarting the dhcp server I see soemthing interesting |
| 22:15.35 | Haraken | googling this now to see if it is important |
| 22:15.40 | Haraken | http://pastebin.com/s6DpHZPb |
| 22:16.52 | Haraken | AH HAA |
| 22:16.53 | Haraken | I got it! |
| 22:17.04 | Haraken | Jun 15 07:38:01 clonezilla dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:30:48:f8:a3:ec via eth1: network 10.1.1/24: no free leases |
| 22:17.32 | Nirkus | :) |
| 22:17.43 | Haraken | just gotta see how to add some more now :) |
| 22:19.17 | Haraken | haha |
| 22:19.22 | Haraken | thanks Nirkus |
| 22:19.37 | Haraken | this explains a lot |
| 22:22.50 | panzer | ok I got a question here. Anyone using WINNER or something else and doing a multi option pxe? |
| 22:30.45 | Haraken | not that a I know of, what is a multi option pxe? |
| 22:31.17 | Haraken | are you talking about booting to a menu to choose different options? |
| 22:31.23 | panzer | yes |
| 22:32.19 | Haraken | I use pxelinux |
| 22:32.41 | Haraken | lets me make a custom menu and boot all kinds of different linux installs |
| 22:32.46 | panzer | ok. |
| 22:33.09 | Haraken | if you want a good example, I used clonezilla's pxe menu as a starting template then I went from there |
| 22:33.10 | panzer | alright is there anyone doing pxelinux and combining that with xp installs? |
| 22:33.15 | Haraken | yes |
| 22:33.24 | Haraken | I am using something called unattended |
| 22:33.36 | Haraken | I actually use it for windows 2003 installs, but xp is also an option |
| 22:33.41 | panzer | looking that up now. |
| 22:33.47 | Haraken | http://unattended.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:34.35 | panzer | oh thanks. This looks good. |
| 22:34.48 | Haraken | it works wonders ;) |
| 22:34.56 | Haraken | it just takes a bit of time to setup at first |
| 22:35.38 | panzer | no worries. you got a sep box for it ? |
| 22:36.31 | Haraken | no I have it on the same pxe bot |
| 22:37.49 | panzer | how many menu options do you have? |
| 22:37.55 | Haraken | hmm |
| 22:37.57 | Haraken | one sec |
| 22:38.38 | Haraken | about 48 options |
| 22:39.00 | Haraken | several linux operating systems with 32bit and 64bit versions, knoppix many diag tools and different windows installs |
| 22:39.30 | Haraken | it is probably my most used tool at work, besides the computer I am sitting in front of |
| 22:40.36 | Nirkus | panzer: pansa? |
| 22:40.37 | panzer | nice |
| 22:40.44 | panzer | no |
| 22:41.48 | panzer | Haraken I should have done this years ago. I have been installing with CD's |
| 22:42.29 | Haraken | panzer, my old co worker used to do nothing but cds and I was like man, we literally have a kvm for almost every server and we only used them for when there was a problem |
| 22:42.30 | panzer | so what kind of network are you rnning? 100base? |
| 22:42.54 | Haraken | mostly yeah |
| 22:43.28 | panzer | ok. |
| 22:43.41 | panzer | I guess this does not take alot of resourses? |
| 22:44.04 | Haraken | as in? |
| 22:44.19 | Haraken | network traffic sure, but if you keep it all local it won't cost you much |
| 22:44.35 | Haraken | hardware wise, you can do this off a celeron as long as you got plenty of storage for the o/s's |
| 22:44.40 | panzer | ok. |
| 22:44.50 | panzer | yea I got gige gear so I am not worried about that. |
| 22:44.59 | Haraken | nice |
| 22:45.16 | Haraken | that'll be so nice to watch installs on |
| 22:45.20 | panzer | yea that 60MB/s is sweet. Depending it gets higher. |
| 22:45.40 | Haraken | 10mb/s isn't too bad especially if you have 5 isntalls going at once |
| 22:46.01 | Haraken | I run my netboot server off of gigabit, but most of it's clients are connected by only 100mbit |
| 22:46.06 | Nirkus | panzer: we have iSCSI hosts (as in Linux hosts) doing 90MByte/s average over 1 GigBit |
| 22:46.10 | Nirkus | :) |
| 22:47.19 | panzer | yea I had that from my newest machines to each other. |
| 22:47.28 | panzer | very very nice. |
| 22:47.35 | Nirkus | Haraken: at least you can have about five times 10MByte/sec in parallel with a GigBit server - look at it that way :> |
| 22:47.51 | Haraken | very true :) |
| 22:48.25 | Nirkus | yeah, we build Xen clusters doing software raid over iSCSI over GigBit, nice performance.. |
| 22:48.37 | panzer | how much space are you taking up there Haraken? |
| 22:48.45 | panzer | so why the iSCSI stuff? |
| 22:48.57 | Nirkus | panzer: it performs better than nbd |
| 22:49.06 | panzer | nbd? |
| 22:49.13 | Nirkus | panzer: network block device. |
| 22:49.16 | panzer | ok |
| 22:49.36 | Nirkus | panzer: somehow you need to sync the storages between cluster nodes, so you can do failover |
| 22:49.52 | panzer | let me get this stuff up and running then I will look into that. |
| 22:50.23 | Haraken | /dev/md0 457G 354G 81G 82% / |
| 22:50.31 | Haraken | about 354GB |
| 22:50.43 | Nirkus | :) |
| 22:51.02 | Haraken | I was using a lot more, but I modified my rsync commands to include --delete so when they sync to a repository they aren't saving gobs old data |
| 22:52.07 | Haraken | I am planning on rebuilding my net boot machine to work in a windows environment but still utilize the pxelinux as well as the remote deployment services. When I do that I am going to have 1TB to 1.5TB on a raid 5 |
| 22:52.34 | Haraken | I actually already have a test machine built, I just need to work out a few bugs to get the first windows deployment test going |
| 22:52.46 | panzer | ok. I was going to have 16TB on the file server but got some issues |
| 22:52.50 | Haraken | see, unattended is great but it doesn't work with Vista/2008/7 etc. |
| 22:52.59 | panzer | ok |
| 22:53.06 | panzer | well I wanted it for xp. |
| 22:53.14 | panzer | but I will be moving to vista sometime. |
| 22:53.49 | Haraken | i think there are some linux hacks to get an vista install working from linux as well |
| 22:53.50 | Nirkus | panzer: skip vista, go 7 ... everybody is screaming nowadays :) |
| 22:54.09 | Haraken | something about a partpe environment to boot the installer *shrug* |
| 22:54.16 | Haraken | bartpe |
| 22:54.45 | panzer | ok |
| 22:54.58 | Nirkus | Haraken: unattended does not use *PE? |
| 22:56.15 | Haraken | it uses some sort of script to extract the installer files to the drive, sets it bootable and it reboots into the installer using that |
| 22:56.16 | Nirkus | panzer: AFAIR the main reason to move to 7 directly is that vista does not provide support that much longer than XP |
| 22:56.33 | Nirkus | Haraken: uaaah :) |
| 22:57.01 | panzer | and if you have a blank disk it formats? |
| 22:57.12 | Haraken | although I'm not sure why that same method doesn't work for vista/7 but they talk about it on the website a little bit |
| 22:57.18 | Nirkus | Haraken: ..on the other hand.. that way you have a GNU/Linux scripting environment before the windows installer will be launched |
| 22:57.21 | Nirkus | :) |
| 22:57.44 | Haraken | Nirkus, yup, it even prompts you to modify scripts before executing, it's pretty neat |
| 22:57.54 | Nirkus | hehe |
| 22:57.54 | panzer | Nirkus yea I prob will be working with used machines |
| 22:58.38 | panzer | don't know yet I am looking for a job. My computer biz went bust. |
| 22:58.43 | Nirkus | panzer: i dont think, windows 7 has _that_ high hardware requirements in repect to vista |
| 22:58.51 | Nirkus | :-/ |
| 22:58.58 | Haraken | i think it actually runs better than vista |
| 22:59.02 | Haraken | on slower machines |
| 22:59.08 | panzer | was running win7 on a X3450 with 6gig ram. |
| 22:59.23 | Nirkus | x64? |
| 22:59.30 | panzer | that was roommates machine. Of course x64 |
| 22:59.36 | Nirkus | nice :) |
| 22:59.49 | panzer | mine is X3450 6gig running x64 ubuntu |
| 23:00.07 | Nirkus | im running vista x64 on a core 2 duo e8500, 8GByte RAM for about over a year now, i think |
| 23:00.29 | Nirkus | my girlfriend uses it for her thesis and im using it for gaming :) |
| 23:00.30 | panzer | yea I have one of those I am going to build. I have most of the parts. |
| 23:01.15 | Nirkus | runs ok.. but since i got win 7 for free, ill be installing that as soon as gf has finished her thesis |
| 23:01.28 | panzer | nice |
| 23:02.19 | Haraken | i got my win7 on student discount ;) |
| 23:02.23 | Haraken | 30 bucks for pro upgrade |
| 23:02.35 | Nirkus | Haraken: got it via MSDN AA for free :> |
| 23:02.44 | Haraken | oo |
| 23:02.47 | Haraken | what is AA? |
| 23:02.57 | Nirkus | academic alliance or something like that |
| 23:03.03 | Haraken | ah |
| 23:03.17 | panzer | roommate paid full price for his. |
| 23:03.25 | Nirkus | if your university does ... pay them money(?) - dont know .. all the students may use it for free |
| 23:03.25 | Haraken | heh |
| 23:03.30 | Nirkus | :D |
| 23:03.41 | panzer | but then again what is 250$ when one is spending thousands on new stuff |
| 23:04.19 | Nirkus | panzer: well, if youre buying Xeon machines.. no wonder, your spending thousands :P |
| 23:05.58 | panzer | of course |
| 23:06.05 | panzer | but they are nice. |
| 23:06.29 | panzer | hey it was his money not mine. |
| 23:06.40 | panzer | and it sure beats the pants off the E8500 I was going to build. |
| 23:06.50 | Nirkus | hihi |
| 23:07.33 | Nirkus | my new home "server" is a core i5 650, 8GByt RAM.... id bet, that machine got more power than my desktop |
| 23:09.50 | Nirkus | but core i5, actually, is very neat to built little servers. it has the core i architecture (memory controller integrated) and AES new instructions and VT/VT-d/.. and the GPU is integrated, too.. |
| 23:10.09 | panzer | not bad then |
| 23:10.10 | Nirkus | so, no need for a mobo with integrated GPU or even a seperate GPU card |
| 23:10.40 | panzer | yea I wanted to have this stuff on a dedicated file server. |
| 23:10.49 | Nirkus | combined it with a Q57 chipset for management foo and have a free PCIe x16 slot thanks to CPU GPU |
| 23:15.38 | panzer | Haraken do you have this on a machine named ntinstall or do you alias in the dns server somehow? |
| 23:16.48 | Haraken | I setup a hostname in our dns server for ntinstall.domain.com to the local ip that I use for the ntinstall. It was somewhat of a sloppy procedure but it gets the job done |
| 23:17.08 | Haraken | the actual hostname of the server didn't matter |
| 23:17.25 | panzer | ok. |
| 23:17.27 | panzer | cool |
| 23:19.42 | panzer | well sloppy but hey if it works then great. |
| 23:20.51 | Haraken | yup :) |
| 23:21.07 | Haraken | oh |
| 23:21.14 | Haraken | and you need to have this in you resolv.conf |
| 23:21.21 | Haraken | search domain.com |
| 23:21.23 | Haraken | whatever domain you use |
| 23:21.45 | panzer | ok |
| 23:22.51 | panzer | I take it this is the resolv.conf that pxelinux uses? |
| 23:24.01 | Haraken | yes |
| 23:24.25 | Haraken | the dhcp server that my pxelinux uses also includes search domain.com |
| 23:24.43 | Haraken | option domain-name "domain.com"; |
| 23:25.44 | panzer | ok |
| 23:29.25 | panzer | yea I can't wait to get this stuff up and running. |
| 23:31.04 | Haraken | it definitely changed the way I spend my work day that's for sure, probably for the worst though |
| 23:31.12 | Haraken | I now sit on my ass 100% more than I used to |
| 23:31.35 | Haraken | no more bending over to attach cd rom drives and running back and forth to mount and unmount servers |
| 23:31.45 | panzer | ok |