| 00:03.53 | rbergeron | can i mix brcode with emph? |
| 00:04.26 | jwl_rh | howso? \brcode{} will ask for texttt for anything inside it. |
| 00:04.42 | jwl_rh | it's a little like \verb|| would be. |
| 00:06.54 | rbergeron | he has |
| 00:07.23 | rbergeron | \emph{neighbouring}\footnote{\tiny\emph{Neighbouring} CPUs are those |
| 00:07.35 | rbergeron | so change tiny to texttt? |
| 00:07.59 | jwl_rh | no, just lose the tiny |
| 00:08.27 | jwl_rh | For some reason, footnotesize wasn't eyebreakingly small enough for this author |
| 00:08.49 | jwl_rh | I'd suggest a query-replace of \tiny with (blank), to delete all inappropriate uses of it. |
| 00:08.59 | jwl_rh | Using \tiny within \footnote{} is inappropriate. |
| 00:12.34 | jwl_rh | meh. waskiewicz is a billion little .tex files. |
| 00:12.39 | jwl_rh | Anyone working on it currently? |
| 00:12.47 | jwl_rh | is about to run it through aspell. |
| 00:13.15 | rbergeron | i looked at it earlier. |
| 00:15.31 | rbergeron | so these other footnotes that use texttt, change to brcode? or just delete altogether |
| 00:15.35 | rbergeron | the formatting |
| 00:15.36 | rbergeron | :) |
| 00:16.58 | rbergeron | i keep fouling this up. it's making robyn angry |
| 00:17.05 | rbergeron | oh, an extra } |
| 00:17.07 | rbergeron | gar |
| 00:18.13 | jwl_rh | texttt is fine for many uses |
| 00:18.20 | rbergeron | i got it to work |
| 00:18.26 | rbergeron | and now it is readable |
| 00:18.29 | jwl_rh | try just ditching the \tiny and see how it comes out |
| 00:18.31 | rbergeron | praise the lord |
| 00:18.35 | jwl_rh | if readable then DONE. :) |
| 00:20.39 | rbergeron | \emph{neighbouring} cpus, \underline{\emph{provided}} |
| 00:20.44 | rbergeron | this looks weird when printed. |
| 00:20.54 | rbergeron | it looks like there is no space between cpus,provided |
| 00:21.08 | rbergeron | oh, probably because it is italicized. |
| 00:21.19 | rbergeron | and the p is slanting downwards in an awkward fashion. |
| 00:22.17 | jwl_rh | \underline\textit (or \emph) is a bug. |
| 00:22.20 | jwl_rh | lose the underline. |
| 00:22.57 | jwl_rh | I'd love to put a hack into ols.cls that blows up in someone's face when they try to underline anything that's in a different typeface (bold, italic, whatever). |
| 00:23.05 | rbergeron | Does ~cite automagically put a space? |
| 00:23.16 | jwl_rh | ~ = nonbreaking space. |
| 00:23.34 | jwl_rh | foo ~cite is stupid. Needs to be foo~cite to have any effect. |
| 00:23.39 | rbergeron | so at the beginning of a paragraph |
| 00:23.42 | rbergeron | ~\cite{Tam07threadclustering} describes one |
| 00:23.47 | rbergeron | should lose the ~ |
| 00:23.55 | jwl_rh | Indeed |
| 00:23.58 | rbergeron | i won't even get into how wrong it sounds, but |
| 00:25.04 | jwl_rh | aspell caught a bunch of stuff in waskiewicz. It's really worthwhile. |
| 00:25.24 | jwl_rh | (in his case, a lot of "independant" crud was in there.) |
| 00:25.26 | rbergeron | i don't seem to have it on my system :( |
| 00:25.29 | rbergeron | ew |
| 00:25.35 | jwl_rh | sudo yum install aspell |
| 00:25.35 | rbergeron | i'm missing a lot of things i should be seeing :( |
| 00:25.38 | riley_dt | yum install aspell |
| 00:26.00 | rbergeron | riley_dt: rbergero is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 00:26.06 | rbergeron | what, you don't trust me? on my OWN COMPUTER?!? |
| 00:26.10 | riley_dt | su |
| 00:26.13 | riley_dt | type in the root pwd |
| 00:26.18 | riley_dt | yum install aspell |
| 00:26.39 | jwl_rh | (and then of course, exit back to your merry ol' self ;) |
| 00:26.58 | riley_dt | make sure not to get crazy with the rm command either |
| 00:27.05 | rbergeron | i used to love it in skool days |
| 00:27.08 | rbergeron | when we'd tell people |
| 00:27.13 | rbergeron | "to get ops on irc" |
| 00:27.16 | rbergeron | "you just have to type" |
| 00:27.26 | rbergeron | "/exec rm ....... |
| 00:27.32 | rbergeron | or |
| 00:27.39 | rbergeron | " you just have to type /exec -kill ... |
| 00:27.43 | rbergeron | and you'd see them drop off the earth |
| 00:27.46 | rbergeron | and come back all sad and stuff |
| 00:27.47 | rbergeron | lolz |
| 00:30.00 | jwl_rh | rbergeron: which one were you busy with? I don't want to cause a collision when you go to check it in |
| 00:30.09 | jwl_rh | I'm up to vaddagiri now |
| 00:30.14 | rbergeron | he |
| 00:30.14 | rbergeron | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.20 | rbergeron | i'm working on that one atm |
| 00:30.33 | rbergeron | i can check in my stuff if you want to run it through real quicklike |
| 00:30.57 | jwl_rh | nah, I'll just skip vaddagiri and come back to it |
| 00:31.00 | jwl_rh | no worries |
| 00:31.16 | rbergeron | The results show that binding, ????????? |
| 00:31.20 | rbergeron | what the heck is thr' |
| 00:31.23 | jwl_rh | through? |
| 00:31.46 | jwl_rh | unless there's some variable named 'thr' and the author means 'thr prime' |
| 00:31.52 | rbergeron | no. |
| 00:33.21 | rbergeron | A special thanks goes to...insert ppl here... for proding the authors |
| 00:33.23 | rbergeron | lol |
| 00:34.13 | jwl_rh | evidently they make even more typos when prodded :) |
| 00:34.21 | rbergeron | i need a good proding. |
| 00:34.27 | jwl_rh | or does it literally say "insert ppl here"? :) |
| 00:34.32 | rbergeron | no, no |
| 00:34.41 | rbergeron | I didn't feel like typing all those names. |
| 00:35.03 | jwl_rh | It'd be really funny if it said "insert ppl here" :-) |
| 00:36.32 | rbergeron | is the .bbl file generated from the .bib file? |
| 00:37.00 | jwl_rh | iirc, yes |
| 00:37.20 | rbergeron | so, vaddagiri.bib has a reference to a Fran Allen |
| 00:37.26 | rbergeron | Fran Allen's talk on some such or another. |
| 00:37.29 | rbergeron | but then the .bbl file |
| 00:37.30 | rbergeron | shows it as |
| 00:37.32 | rbergeron | Fran allen |
| 00:37.37 | rbergeron | and that is how it shows up in the paper. |
| 00:37.43 | rbergeron | but the .bib file actually says, Fran Allen. |
| 00:37.45 | rbergeron | with a capital A. |
| 00:38.08 | rbergeron | after i put it through mview, it makes this .bbl file appear, and it says Fran allen. |
| 00:38.29 | jwl_rh | try Fran~Allen in the .bib |
| 00:40.00 | jwl_rh | aaaaaaggggggggggghhhhhh, I just opened suzaki.tex. it hurts, it hurts. |
| 00:40.31 | rbergeron | nada. |
| 00:41.24 | jwl_rh | grr. \mbox{Fran Allen}, maybe? |
| 00:41.40 | jwl_rh | or {A}llen? |
| 00:42.05 | jwl_rh | or \useACapitalLetterHereBibTeXYouSuck{}? :-) |
| 00:42.24 | rbergeron | there's an idea. |
| 00:42.46 | jwl_rh | don't forget to blow away the .bbl file between tries |
| 00:42.50 | rbergeron | ah ha! |
| 00:42.54 | rbergeron | yeah, i'm doing a mkclean every time. |
| 00:43.03 | rbergeron | {A} worked. |
| 00:43.31 | jwl_rh | figured it stood a better chance than the \YouSuck one. BibTeX gets all huffy at that kind of thing. |
| 00:43.45 | rbergeron | easily insulted, eh? |
| 00:43.54 | jwl_rh | alas, yes |
| 00:44.23 | rbergeron | my leg is aslee. |
| 00:44.24 | rbergeron | again. |
| 00:44.46 | rbergeron | asleep. |
| 00:44.47 | jwl_rh | wake it up and take it for a walk, I guess :) |
| 00:44.47 | rbergeron | also. |
| 00:45.19 | rbergeron | I think i'm done with vaddagiri for the moment. |
| 00:45.27 | rbergeron | he's got a colorized chart in there, though. |
| 00:45.41 | rbergeron | but with red, blue, and green bars, so it might turn out kosher in greyscale. |
| 00:45.50 | rbergeron | I am going to wake up my leg |
| 00:45.50 | rbergeron | again |
| 00:46.11 | jwl_rh | zzzZzzZzzZzzZzzz, it knows how to go through vaddagiri safely ;) |
| 01:00.34 | jwl_rh | ajh: around? |
| 01:01.25 | jwl_rh | ajh: yoon *is* the last paper, if you want to accommodate him. Should be fairly easy to split up if that's what you really want to do. |
| 01:07.01 | rbergeron | jwl: anything obvious offhand that needs attention desperately? |
| 01:07.06 | rbergeron | don't say suzaki |
| 01:07.18 | rbergeron | i'm having a lack of junk food problem here |
| 01:07.19 | rbergeron | gahhhh |
| 01:07.52 | jwl_rh | I just finished running suzaki through aspell. Too bad aspell doesn't have a "shred" mode :/ |
| 01:08.54 | jwl_rh | sidorenko? |
| 01:11.30 | rbergeron | good lord |
| 01:12.21 | rbergeron | is dumpanalysis one word? |
| 01:12.35 | rbergeron | oh, apparently it is. |
| 01:13.40 | jwl_rh | shouldn't be |
| 01:15.11 | rbergeron | used twice in paper... hmm |
| 01:15.11 | rbergeron | oh, but the title. |
| 01:15.11 | rbergeron | yeah. |
| 01:15.11 | rbergeron | wow, i'm having quite a day. |
| 01:16.06 | rbergeron | I love how he says |
| 01:16.11 | rbergeron | "we need programmatic API" |
| 01:16.16 | rbergeron | "why do we need Programmatic API" |
| 01:19.10 | rbergeron | Arithmetical? |
| 01:19.15 | rbergeron | arithmatical? |
| 01:19.20 | rbergeron | google? |
| 01:19.45 | rbergeron | arithmetical. wow. |
| 01:19.45 | pakrat | jwl_rh: Yeah, I can start doing aspell |
| 01:20.09 | jwl_rh | pakrat: n/m, I'm almost done. One more to go. |
| 01:20.24 | jwl_rh | pakrat: but there are a few papers that could use help, if you're feeling really really brave. |
| 01:22.10 | pakrat | I'm not feeling that brave... |
| 01:22.31 | jwl_rh | awww, but there's some true megasuckage out there ;) |
| 01:23.19 | jwl_rh | some of which is simple. ``some\_term()'', that should've been \ident{some_term()}, and such. |
| 01:23.21 | pakrat | I'm going to stick with nice safe things like breaking up a cat fight between my old tom and the just spayed kitten, or cleaning out the infection on the old dog's leg. |
| 01:23.46 | pakrat | Awww, hell, point me at one. |
| 01:23.51 | jwl_rh | I wonder if that's what's wrong with suzaki/. Some infection. :-) |
| 01:24.05 | jwl_rh | suzaki is by far the worst |
| 01:24.14 | jwl_rh | let's see if there's something not quite as bad. |
| 01:24.19 | jwl_rh | rbergeron: any suggestions? |
| 01:24.37 | rbergeron | suggestions on.... |
| 01:24.38 | rbergeron | oh |
| 01:24.40 | rbergeron | suzaki! |
| 01:24.49 | jwl_rh | sales is likely to be pretty bad, if nobody has done that one yet. |
| 01:25.54 | jwl_rh | sinha, too, if nobody has done that one. |
| 01:26.22 | rbergeron | sidorenko's is ugly, but at least, consistently ugly. |
| 01:26.23 | rbergeron | Lots of |
| 01:26.28 | rbergeron | Let's enumerate some stuff. |
| 01:26.39 | rbergeron | like, for example, sentences that do not start with capital letters |
| 01:26.45 | rbergeron | but at least they're consistently uncapitalized |
| 01:27.10 | pakrat | sales has not a single defined citation... |
| 01:29.55 | rbergeron | there are several of those people :) |
| 01:31.32 | jwl_rh | oh, man |
| 01:31.38 | jwl_rh | just listening to the Red Sox game |
| 01:32.01 | jwl_rh | a guy just missed a catch -- looked like he had it at first, but it went behind him |
| 01:32.19 | jwl_rh | so the announcer said something like "thought he had it, til it came out of his backside" |
| 01:32.30 | jwl_rh | ouch! |
| 01:35.01 | rbergeron | doh |
| 01:35.34 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: sorry, had in my local tree, hadn't pushed it yet |
| 01:35.45 | warthog9 | (and sorry Terri and I were out most of the day) |
| 01:36.08 | rbergeron | needs caffeine |
| 01:36.22 | jwl_rh | warthog9: there's a merge to deal with now, I'm afraid |
| 01:36.40 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: on who's end? |
| 01:36.44 | jwl_rh | warthog9: just add yourself above me |
| 01:36.47 | warthog9 | ok |
| 01:37.58 | warthog9 | ok I'm in |
| 01:38.33 | jwl_rh | warthog9: sigh. |
| 01:38.39 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: ? |
| 01:40.12 | jwl_rh | warthog9: should be set now. |
| 01:43.38 | warthog9 | ok, sorry thought you meant right above your name |
| 01:51.14 | jwl_rh | everything should now be through aspell |
| 01:51.29 | rbergeron | including sidorenko? |
| 01:52.21 | jwl_rh | yeah, that was one that fonseca did, I believe. |
| 01:52.28 | rbergeron | ahhh |
| 01:52.32 | jwl_rh | why, are there spelling problems there? |
| 01:52.37 | rbergeron | i don't think so |
| 01:52.42 | rbergeron | but, i was working on it a bit ago |
| 01:52.46 | rbergeron | while you were going through the list |
| 01:52.56 | rbergeron | oh, maybe that was a different one |
| 01:53.09 | rbergeron | yes, it was. |
| 01:53.12 | jwl_rh | I just did vaddagiri, which you were indeed working on |
| 01:53.14 | rbergeron | my poor brain. |
| 01:53.16 | rbergeron | oh, that's the one. |
| 01:53.43 | jwl_rh | I also changed the $\line_noise\textregistered$ crap into \LegalR there, too. |
| 01:54.16 | jwl_rh | it's soooo much easier to use \LegalR and \LegalTM to make the marks come out right. |
| 01:55.46 | jwl_rh | ***** LAST HOUR OF CHANGES **** |
| 01:56.21 | rbergeron | tahdah |
| 01:56.25 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: anything I can do to be helpful, or are we well past the stage where I can be of help? |
| 01:56.50 | jwl_rh | Looks like proofreading at this stage, unless you spot something |
| 01:57.04 | jwl_rh | I'm currently building the whole mess |
| 01:57.07 | warthog9 | I'll glance through the full build I just did |
| 01:57.14 | warthog9 | (btw make -j 4 worked fine) |
| 01:57.19 | jwl_rh | that way I can do a quick skim-through with okular |
| 01:57.47 | jwl_rh | I don't trust that to work right, from previous years' experience :) |
| 01:58.11 | pakrat | sales is ugly, and aside from some hbox underfills and a vbox problem seems to actually be right. |
| 01:58.31 | jwl_rh | 23 well how |
| 01:58.34 | jwl_rh | 24 ugly can |
| 01:58.38 | jwl_rh | 25 it get, anyway? |
| 01:58.39 | jwl_rh | :-) |
| 01:59.02 | pakrat | But he's consistant about that crap. |
| 01:59.16 | jwl_rh | the listings package is, actually. |
| 02:06.52 | rbergeron | oh, banginwar. ugh |
| 02:07.07 | jwl_rh | bangineyes? :) |
| 02:07.57 | rbergeron | The uniqueness of our designs are as follows: |
| 02:08.18 | jwl_rh | The unique features |
| 02:08.43 | jwl_rh | Good thing I started reading through |
| 02:08.51 | jwl_rh | bird/ needs some tweaking. |
| 02:08.58 | jwl_rh | We don't do biographies. |
| 02:10.24 | rbergeron | he says |
| 02:10.28 | rbergeron | "as shown in the Figure 1" |
| 02:10.34 | rbergeron | "as seen in the Table 1" |
| 02:13.11 | jwl_rh | as seen in the inability to use the Articles. :) |
| 02:14.38 | rbergeron | However, |
| 02:14.38 | rbergeron | we restrict the namespace of the particular application, so that it |
| 02:14.38 | rbergeron | could only have the visibility of a sufficient sets of filesystem to |
| 02:14.38 | rbergeron | accomplish its task. |
| 02:14.56 | rbergeron | set of filesystems? |
| 02:15.21 | rbergeron | We have, in this paper described, |
| 02:15.24 | rbergeron | lol |
| 02:15.59 | jwl_rh | ouch |
| 02:16.19 | rbergeron | do you suppose that is set of filesystems? i believe it is |
| 02:16.31 | jwl_rh | not quite sure on that one. We restrict the namespace so that it only *sees* enough filesystems? |
| 02:17.03 | jwl_rh | basically, are they hiding some filesystems for some reason? |
| 02:17.50 | jwl_rh | okay, bird/ fixed up. |
| 02:18.10 | rbergeron | i would like to delete this sections of the sets of my filesystem? |
| 02:18.50 | jwl_rh | ugh. dunno. |
| 02:19.05 | jwl_rh | delete some crap? :) |
| 02:20.19 | rbergeron | i'm down with sufficient set of filesystems |
| 02:20.21 | rbergeron | riley agrees |
| 02:20.23 | rbergeron | it's his fault |
| 02:20.32 | jwl_rh | sounds good to me, then |
| 02:25.58 | rbergeron | someone working on darling? |
| 02:28.53 | rbergeron | looking at fournier |
| 02:29.01 | jwl_rh | nope; just tweaked duval |
| 02:29.08 | jwl_rh | I've tweaked a pile of 'em |
| 02:29.13 | jwl_rh | might be a good time to svn update |
| 02:29.24 | rbergeron | just did |
| 02:30.03 | jwl_rh | fournier has a bunch of we call this "overquoting" -- without even saying ``overquoting'' ... sigh. |
| 02:30.10 | rbergeron | yeah |
| 02:30.13 | rbergeron | i just noticed |
| 02:30.14 | rbergeron | fixing |
| 02:30.46 | jwl_rh | and some\footnote{blah}. rather than putting the period in the proper spot |
| 02:31.11 | rbergeron | and a bunch of % i'm parling en francais-ing going on |
| 02:31.24 | rbergeron | % quels étaient les inconvénients de cette méthode? |
| 02:31.24 | rbergeron | % exemple utilisation des markers? |
| 02:31.24 | rbergeron | % support pour threads, processes? |
| 02:32.47 | jwl_rh | If it's commented out, I don't care what it says |
| 02:32.52 | rbergeron | i know. |
| 02:32.57 | rbergeron | i just thought it was fairly amusing :) |
| 02:33.12 | jwl_rh | In the last half hour, my apathy level is rising very very high :-) |
| 02:33.44 | jwl_rh | I've only finished scanning through page 111 of 342, though. |
| 02:34.44 | rbergeron | brb :) |
| 02:34.59 | rbergeron | if you see anything obviously repetitive that needs fixing, yell it out |
| 02:36.03 | jwl_rh | kkkkkkkkim. even the abstract is painful |
| 02:38.54 | rbergeron | oh my god. |
| 02:38.59 | rbergeron | hah |
| 02:39.01 | rbergeron | okay |
| 02:40.09 | jwl_rh | the bibliography also needs to be flushleft there |
| 02:40.34 | rbergeron | okee dokee |
| 02:43.42 | rbergeron | uhhhhhh. |
| 02:43.54 | rbergeron | something is awry with kim-abstract.tex |
| 02:44.00 | rbergeron | 1 byte? |
| 02:44.01 | jwl_rh | waah, red sox just lost :/ |
| 02:44.31 | jwl_rh | rbergeron: the file isn't being used |
| 02:44.50 | rbergeron | so the abstract is just in the paper itself? |
| 02:44.57 | jwl_rh | yep |
| 02:44.59 | rbergeron | oh. |
| 02:45.03 | rbergeron | okay then |
| 02:45.16 | rbergeron | oh, i see. |
| 02:45.19 | rbergeron | see, i just had to read. |
| 02:45.26 | rbergeron | i was just thinking... |
| 02:45.29 | rbergeron | omg, what have i done now |
| 02:45.30 | jwl_rh | yeah, but with kim, reading hurts :) |
| 02:46.20 | rbergeron | So, it is natural that we tend to question ? can we use them to trace virtual machines? |
| 02:46.27 | rbergeron | it is natural that i question |
| 02:46.29 | rbergeron | wtf he is typing |
| 02:47.04 | jwl_rh | engrish? |
| 02:47.25 | jwl_rh | it's natural that we wonder whether we can use them, I suppose. |
| 02:47.51 | rbergeron | this is going to be quick and quite dirty. |
| 02:48.12 | jwl_rh | filllllthy source leads to dirty fixes |
| 02:51.01 | rbergeron | As a matter of fact, \texttt{virtqueue\_ops.kick} of \texttt{virtio\_pci}, |
| 02:51.02 | rbergeron | the communication method in Virtio, in the guest invokes \texttt{iowrite16}. |
| 02:52.16 | rbergeron | references need to be flushleft? |
| 02:52.18 | jwl_rh | Not quite sure; I presume that virtio_pci onws virtqueue_ops. |
| 02:52.21 | jwl_rh | yeah |
| 02:52.26 | rbergeron | in lieu of raggedleft |
| 02:52.32 | jwl_rh | s/onws/owns/ |
| 02:52.36 | jwl_rh | raggedright |
| 02:53.01 | rbergeron | \begin{thebibliography}{99} |
| 02:53.01 | rbergeron | %\raggedleft |
| 02:53.05 | jwl_rh | I tend to prefer \begin{flushleft}, since you can wrap whatever form of bibliography he's using. |
| 02:53.16 | jwl_rh | bah, idiocy. |
| 02:53.29 | jwl_rh | raggedleft would look miserable (flushright? egad!) |
| 02:53.48 | rbergeron | lol |
| 02:54.43 | rbergeron | okay, tell me what to type, or i just checked it in, if you want to type it yourself, or I can take 20 minutes to look it up, which probably isn't kosher. |
| 02:55.07 | jwl_rh | I'm going to finish my scan-through unless ajh pipes up |
| 02:55.07 | rbergeron | i'm so slow today :( |
| 02:55.17 | jwl_rh | oh |
| 02:55.27 | jwl_rh | for the bib? |
| 02:55.30 | rbergeron | yeah |
| 02:55.32 | jwl_rh | you can either do \raggedright |
| 02:55.43 | jwl_rh | or do \begin{flushleft} (bib) \end{flushleft} |
| 02:56.00 | jwl_rh | they'll do the same thing. Just put the \raggedright where the guy has %\raggedleft |
| 02:56.13 | rbergeron | okay. that is easier for me to decipher :) |
| 02:56.17 | rbergeron | without breaking things further |
| 02:56.27 | rbergeron | ordinarily i'd figure it out but |
| 02:56.27 | rbergeron | :) |
| 02:56.49 | jwl_rh | bah, there's still a lot of little crap in here |
| 02:56.55 | jwl_rh | nussbaum/ is full of such |
| 02:57.18 | jwl_rh | If you can't use 'i.e.' and 'e.g.' correctly, don't use 'em at all! sheesh. |
| 02:57.59 | rbergeron | amazingly |
| 02:58.07 | rbergeron | kim has the whole em/endash thing down pat |
| 02:58.41 | jwl_rh | I might've fixed that, I've utterly forgotten. But given the abstract's condition, maybe he *did* magically get it right. |
| 03:00.36 | rbergeron | what's with his random legaleez |
| 03:01.04 | jwl_rh | hmm? didn't look |
| 03:01.39 | jwl_rh | kim or nussbaum? |
| 03:02.01 | rbergeron | kim |
| 03:02.10 | riley_dt | robyn has a wopper |
| 03:02.20 | jwl_rh | kim's is "don't sue me for saying somebody's name", pretty simple |
| 03:02.39 | rbergeron | Tracing issues have recently got focused in Linux kernel community. |
| 03:02.39 | rbergeron | Kernel Markers, trace points has already merged into the mainline kernel and various Ftrace engines has been introduced at the LKML\cite{lkml}. |
| 03:02.57 | jwl_rh | ick |
| 03:03.09 | riley_dt | i bet the rest of the paper is good though |
| 03:03.24 | rbergeron | that's the introduction. |
| 03:03.28 | rbergeron | which is after the abstract. |
| 03:03.30 | rbergeron | which said, |
| 03:03.44 | rbergeron | There has been some questions, ? about how to do stuff? |
| 03:03.56 | riley_dt | with my left hand |
| 03:04.00 | riley_dt | with my right hand |
| 03:04.00 | riley_dt | wot |
| 03:04.06 | jwl_rh | and some ? about using punctuation ! properly ?? |
| 03:04.16 | rbergeron | with many spaces around ? ? ? |
| 03:04.41 | rbergeron | "We has been thinking." |
| 03:04.43 | rbergeron | oh has u? |
| 03:04.57 | rbergeron | someone put their paper |
| 03:04.57 | jwl_rh | not about how to use language, evidently. :) |
| 03:05.00 | rbergeron | through the LOLcat filter |
| 03:05.04 | rbergeron | before submitting it |
| 03:05.21 | rbergeron | I can has virtual probes! |
| 03:05.22 | jwl_rh | we can has laffs oooh |
| 03:10.42 | rbergeron | i can has headbang |
| 03:11.30 | warthog9 | bangs his head |
| 03:15.02 | jwl_rh | rbergeron: careful, that'll be the next heavy metal anthem :-) |
| 03:23.02 | rbergeron | hah |
| 03:25.58 | jwl_rh | okay, nussbaum has been de-suckified. |
| 03:28.36 | rbergeron | i have to fetch food, before people starve around here. |
| 03:29.01 | riley_dt | food is overrated |
| 03:29.03 | rbergeron | kim could probably use some additional desuckification, but at least the abstract and intro won't totally turn people off from even reading it now :) |
| 03:29.46 | rbergeron | i'll be back. if there are still last minute things going on, i'll be here, and if ajh calls for it to be sent off, then off it goes |
| 03:29.59 | rbergeron | I CAN HAS PROCEEDINGS |
| 03:30.02 | jwl_rh | heh |
| 03:30.11 | jwl_rh | catch you later, then |
| 03:30.22 | riley_dt | sweet i get my heater back |
| 03:32.00 | riley_dt | oh glorious heater |
| 03:51.12 | jwl_rh | a new build is running. maybe the last, if we're lucky :) |
| 04:00.27 | jwl_rh | *** RELEASE CANDIDATE *** |
| 04:00.45 | jwl_rh | Can everyone please take a look at .ols-draft-2009.pdf on my people page? |
| 04:00.54 | jwl_rh | If there are no serious problems, that's what we'll print |
| 04:00.59 | jwl_rh | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 04:01.18 | jwl_rh | ajh, fonseca, pakrat, riley_dt, warthog9: ^^ |
| 04:01.23 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: http://www.fedorapeople.org/jwl/.ols-draft-2009.pdf ? |
| 04:01.32 | jwl_rh | s/jwl/lockhart/ |
| 04:01.42 | jwl_rh | heh, broke the 'bot. |
| 04:01.43 | riley_dt | sure |
| 04:01.56 | jwl_rh | warthog9: er, people.redhat.com -- sorry |
| 04:02.08 | jwl_rh | Same place you get the SVN-Tips from. |
| 04:02.29 | jwl_rh | I don't really want to put the full draft URL where two bots are reading |
| 04:02.32 | warthog9 | never used the SVN-Tips, has used it and git rather extensively |
| 04:02.53 | jwl_rh | grep people.redhat EXAMPLE/myPaper.tex |
| 04:03.05 | warthog9 | bah, wget is already running |
| 04:03.12 | riley_dt | hmm |
| 04:03.17 | riley_dt | i can't seem to find the draft jwl_rh |
| 04:03.30 | jwl_rh | no /ols/ subdir |
| 04:03.43 | warthog9 | margins are different between pages 3 & 4 |
| 04:03.49 | jwl_rh | as they should be |
| 04:03.56 | jwl_rh | remember, this is being bound. |
| 04:04.08 | warthog9 | I know, I'm just pointing it out |
| 04:04.46 | jwl_rh | riley_dt: try in http://people.redhat.com/lockhart/ |
| 04:05.20 | riley_dt | ya i got it |
| 04:05.38 | riley_dt | some graphics have colors |
| 04:05.45 | warthog9 | for the record those 3d graphs on page 28 didn't convert well :-/ |
| 04:05.51 | riley_dt | but you probably know that |
| 04:05.53 | warthog9 | (not criticizing, just commenting) |
| 04:06.27 | jwl_rh | which page 28? |
| 04:06.45 | jwl_rh | I'm reading the numbers on the top of each page, as if it's hardcopy. |
| 04:06.52 | warthog9 | page 28 of my pdf |
| 04:07.12 | warthog9 | so 28 + 2 it looks like, try page 30 |
| 04:07.33 | riley_dt | would have been cool if everyone used the listings package |
| 04:07.54 | warthog9 | riley_dt: it's a stick to flog for next year |
| 04:08.00 | jwl_rh | bar graph? there was no need for that to be 3-D. Not terrific, but not too horrid. We have worse. |
| 04:08.22 | jwl_rh | Update the EXAMPLE paper with ... better Examples, then. |
| 04:08.29 | warthog9 | is page 62 (read from the top) expected to be blank? |
| 04:08.30 | jwl_rh | Or do another Example. |
| 04:08.42 | jwl_rh | All papers should start on even page numbers. |
| 04:08.54 | warthog9 | just checking |
| 04:08.54 | jwl_rh | (that is, right-hand pages) |
| 04:08.58 | jwl_rh | ah |
| 04:09.09 | jwl_rh | All papers should start on ODD page numbers, I meant to type. |
| 04:09.15 | riley_dt | page 70 is a fully empty page |
| 04:09.26 | jwl_rh | No header? |
| 04:09.32 | riley_dt | and 62 |
| 04:09.36 | riley_dt | ya there is a header |
| 04:09.40 | riley_dt | are empty pages expected? |
| 04:09.53 | jwl_rh | Yes |
| 04:09.55 | riley_dt | ok |
| 04:10.03 | jwl_rh | Because All papers should start on ODD page numbers. |
| 04:10.06 | riley_dt | right |
| 04:10.08 | riley_dt | makes sense |
| 04:10.23 | jwl_rh | Thus, when you're reading the book, they all start on right-hand pages, easy to find. |
| 04:11.04 | jwl_rh | Yes, this means you could write an extra page of copy and not change the pagecount.... IF you had more time :-) |
| 04:11.54 | warthog9 | quick goes to write another page of content, probably *BIG* bitmap color graphics |
| 04:12.14 | jwl_rh | Hmm, I'm going to re-spin it. I think I can finagle the page numbers so that the PDF and hardcopy are in sync. |
| 04:12.29 | jwl_rh | But keep looking for Major Badness in the mean time. |
| 04:13.42 | warthog9 | errrrr jwl_rh you might want to flip the papers I did to [final] instead of [final,color] |
| 04:14.07 | warthog9 | (unless I've got a graphic that didn't greyscale properly in my own paper |
| 04:17.32 | *** join/##ols FF1269970772 (n=PircBot@211.30.251.147) |
| 04:18.01 | warthog9 | (hmmmm much just be *THAT* dia diagram, lord I hate dia) |
| 04:18.49 | warthog9 | wow - first looks at sales paper, I'm glad it's my first |
| 04:19.59 | jwl_rh | warthog9: fixed |
| 04:20.59 | jwl_rh | warthog9: I'm still getting color out of it |
| 04:21.09 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: yeah, sorry about that - I'm guessing theres no way to influence that without actually editing the page itself (most of them seem to have grayscaled properly) |
| 04:21.52 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: I apparently never did a grayscale version, exciting |
| 04:22.07 | jwl_rh | it shouldn't matter, but if you want to fix it, go ahead |
| 04:22.16 | jwl_rh | the page numbers are a bit tricky to finagle. |
| 04:23.16 | riley_dt | the contents look good so far |
| 04:23.20 | riley_dt | at page 150 |
| 04:23.31 | jwl_rh | cool |
| 04:23.50 | warthog9 | looks fine to me up to page 276, ignoring the graphics for sales and suzaki |
| 04:24.15 | riley_dt | leitao's paper has wierd subsection and subsubsectio nusage |
| 04:24.46 | riley_dt | maybe kind of nitpicky i guess |
| 04:25.48 | riley_dt | p171 |
| 04:27.18 | jwl_rh | yeah, he's either using \subsection* or \textbf. |
| 04:27.39 | jwl_rh | not terribly worried about it |
| 04:27.51 | jwl_rh | the page numbers are starting to annoy me, though |
| 04:28.39 | jwl_rh | rebuilding the whole thing, maybe I have some cruft leftover. |
| 04:29.22 | jwl_rh | warthog9: heh, sales and suzaki look a lot better when you ignore them :-) |
| 04:29.42 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: ok my graphics problem fixed |
| 04:29.46 | warthog9 | I <3 inkscape |
| 04:29.51 | warthog9 | it makes me not want to kill things |
| 04:30.11 | riley_dt | page 199 needs a space after comma |
| 04:30.33 | riley_dt | however,a mechanism |
| 04:31.13 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: ok my graphic is fixed |
| 04:36.17 | jwl_rh | I have the page numbers sorted out |
| 04:37.09 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: overall, looks fine to me at a massive glance |
| 04:37.53 | jwl_rh | I fixed riley_dt's wayward comma thing, did an svn update, and now the hopefully-final 'make clean; make' cycle. |
| 04:38.30 | riley_dt | only on page 229 |
| 04:38.33 | riley_dt | but sounds good :) |
| 04:42.16 | *** join/##ols riley_dt_ (n=stevenda@24.121.241.178) |
| 04:42.55 | rbergeron | is the build available somewhere on the whirled whide wheb? |
| 04:43.08 | jwl_rh | rebuilding now, will update shortly |
| 04:44.05 | jwl_rh | crap, forgot to check in a change. |
| 04:44.06 | rbergeron | is on her ... ahem |
| 04:44.06 | rbergeron | mac |
| 04:44.22 | riley_dt | figure 3 caption on suzaki is a paragraph long ... |
| 04:44.38 | riley_dt | ok dinner time back in 10 :) |
| 04:44.48 | jwl_rh | suzaki is like that |
| 04:44.52 | riley_dt | also figure 3 is unreadable |
| 04:45.00 | jwl_rh | don't read too much of it, it turns your brain into guacamole. |
| 04:45.05 | jwl_rh | gah |
| 04:46.28 | rbergeron | mmm, guacamole |
| 04:46.48 | warthog9 | I want guac now |
| 04:47.46 | jwl_rh | suzaki's illegible fig3 is going to stay that way unless someone wants to try converting it into real text (or typing all that crap). |
| 04:48.08 | jwl_rh | At this stage, I think it should stay like crap. Good warning to people. |
| 04:48.43 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: if it's not exact there will be a bitching out somewhere |
| 04:48.48 | jwl_rh | Guacamole is good. suzaki/ is just gloppy and a suspicious green. :) |
| 04:48.51 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: but if it's important I can retype it |
| 04:48.55 | rbergeron | so. here's a lady who is suing hugh hefner |
| 04:48.57 | rbergeron | for...something |
| 04:48.58 | rbergeron | http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/0709_hugh_hefner.pdf |
| 04:49.03 | rbergeron | and she apparently needs more help than suzaki |
| 04:49.29 | jwl_rh | I don't think it's important. Suzaki can bitch at me all he wants to; if he'd read the directions, he'd be okay. :) |
| 04:49.30 | rbergeron | some text may be nsfw :) |
| 04:49.37 | jwl_rh | cool |
| 04:50.06 | warthog9 | wonders why evince will no longer open a url :-( |
| 04:50.25 | rbergeron | she is suing him for 1 billion dollars. |
| 04:50.56 | rbergeron | "I asked like in my head ,since I'm a hat everone in the world heres my thought's, a good way to establish peace." |
| 04:50.58 | rbergeron | REALLY. |
| 04:51.15 | warthog9 | rbergeron: have you ever read of the murder schzophrenics ? |
| 04:51.26 | jwl_rh | It says 2 billion later on |
| 04:51.38 | jwl_rh | I think she'll be submitting an OLS paper next year. :) |
| 04:51.51 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: I declare 'not it' on the editing front |
| 04:52.03 | jwl_rh | heh |
| 04:52.39 | jwl_rh | She'll be suing Tux, who's whispering hexadecimal in her head incessantly. |
| 04:52.54 | warthog9 | http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/weirdspam.eml |
| 04:52.58 | jwl_rh | And her complaint will look just like suzaki's Figure 3! |
| 04:54.04 | warthog9 | if you think that particular e-mail is funny (note it was sent to kernel.org) I should point out we have gotten 2 or 3 more e-mails, new, that further that story |
| 04:54.31 | jwl_rh | I really prefer more coherent stuff, like "United Breaks Guitars" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo |
| 04:54.41 | warthog9 | http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/weirdspam.pdf works too |
| 04:55.24 | jwl_rh | NEW DRAFT, same place as the old |
| 04:55.47 | jwl_rh | rbergeron: e.g., .ols-draft-2009.pdf on my people.redhat page |
| 04:55.55 | rbergeron | ty :) |
| 04:56.08 | jwl_rh | The page numbers &c should be fine now. Suzaki/, however will still suck. |
| 04:56.49 | jwl_rh | (this is probably good, but only if you print it on a Hoover. Extra carpet-cleaning power!!) |
| 04:57.16 | riley_dt | man someone should have cracked the whip on suzaki to get his images in order |
| 04:57.21 | riley_dt | makes the whole proceedings look sloppy |
| 04:57.24 | riley_dt | but the rest looks good :) |
| 04:57.27 | jwl_rh | Tried it |
| 04:57.44 | warthog9 | riley_dt: I tried |
| 04:57.55 | warthog9 | did I mention he used powerpoint to do his diagrams? |
| 04:58.00 | jwl_rh | He couldn't comprehend diddly squat, alas. Probably should've had someone talk to him in whatever he speaks (japanese?) |
| 04:58.20 | rbergeron | his emails |
| 04:58.22 | rbergeron | were |
| 04:58.23 | riley_dt | just say "EPS" - NO POWERPOINT |
| 04:58.24 | rbergeron | just |
| 04:58.47 | rbergeron | only comprehensible in that it was clear that he had no idea what anyone was saying to him. |
| 04:58.49 | riley_dt | my neighbors are listening to 80s pop music |
| 04:58.50 | jwl_rh | riley_dt: He did converted PNGs that way, or TIFF->EPS, or some other godawful CRAP. |
| 04:58.51 | riley_dt | and singing along |
| 04:59.00 | rbergeron | riley: and smoking? |
| 04:59.09 | riley_dt | no those are different neighbors |
| 04:59.47 | riley_dt | diagrams are hard with microsoft tools |
| 04:59.55 | riley_dt | since they dont understand the concept of vectors |
| 05:00.11 | riley_dt | mark another win for linux |
| 05:00.14 | jwl_rh | They keep typing 'victors', it's part of that MS culture |
| 05:00.45 | riley_dt | their mind sees "vectors" from the engineers |
| 05:00.50 | riley_dt | and autoconverts to "we won the market!!' |
| 05:00.57 | jwl_rh | yep |
| 05:01.32 | jwl_rh | How's the new draft? Are the page numbers in the TOC accurate and such? Are warthog9's figures nicely gray now? |
| 05:01.36 | riley_dt | i worked at this linux comapny called infomagic years ago |
| 05:01.41 | riley_dt | like 15 years or more |
| 05:01.52 | jwl_rh | I think I still have some of their disc sets |
| 05:02.08 | riley_dt | ya we distributed linux and bsd and windows shareware |
| 05:02.15 | riley_dt | but mostly linux |
| 05:02.19 | rbergeron | modak. |
| 05:02.49 | jwl_rh | rbergeron: you meant kodak, right? For the picture-perfect DONEness? :) |
| 05:02.50 | rbergeron | 2.2 Role Reversal(From other projects to LTP) |
| 05:02.54 | jwl_rh | crap |
| 05:02.54 | rbergeron | right, right |
| 05:03.31 | rbergeron | And first line of abstract, The Linux Test Project(LTP)[5] |
| 05:03.43 | rbergeron | and oh, i should just get out my other laptop |
| 05:03.51 | rbergeron | stupid, stupid battery |
| 05:04.11 | jwl_rh | both now fixed. |
| 05:04.36 | rbergeron | there is also an dash that needs fixing, if you're still in there |
| 05:04.41 | rbergeron | One - the code that it is supposed to test |
| 05:05.04 | jwl_rh | rbergeron: sounds like it needs a last editorial whirl -- wanna go get it, or shall I? |
| 05:05.30 | rbergeron | I can, I don't know how urgent it is, it is going to take me 5 minutes to get my laptop from outside and plugged into a wall. |
| 05:05.38 | jwl_rh | I'm sure there are other imperfections. |
| 05:05.42 | rbergeron | I was just eyeballing for glaring, obvious problems |
| 05:05.51 | rbergeron | and my eyeballs just went straight to nitpicky issues |
| 05:06.11 | rbergeron | i find it so ugly when there is no space between the sentence and the cite |
| 05:06.46 | rbergeron | and what is this! |
| 05:07.06 | rbergeron | "For sake of visibility & compactness, we highlight only those kernel directories & subdirectories"... |
| 05:07.17 | rbergeron | because "and" is just... so, so much harder to type out |
| 05:07.38 | rbergeron | i'm getting my laptop. gah. |
| 05:07.55 | rbergeron | I can't even read modak's figures. |
| 05:08.25 | rbergeron | maybe at a larger zoom size |
| 05:08.58 | jwl_rh | rbergeron: do an svn update first, I just corrected a pile of drek |
| 05:09.08 | jwl_rh | all yours now, fix away. |
| 05:12.04 | rbergeron | will do |
| 05:12.09 | rbergeron | booting up :) |
| 05:12.51 | warthog9 | my graphic is fixed |
| 05:13.24 | warthog9 | tries to remember what modak's argument with his figures was |
| 05:13.51 | warthog9 | the first one was fine, I loved it - it made me happy |
| 05:14.09 | warthog9 | ohhhhh the LCOV ones - rbergeron those are html pages that have somehow made it into eps |
| 05:15.13 | rbergeron | there _should_ be a sentence between text and a [cite], right? |
| 05:15.13 | rbergeron | so that it's not like |
| 05:15.13 | rbergeron | I am error[492] |
| 05:15.13 | riley_dt | ya i wish i knew how the html was converted to eps |
| 05:15.13 | riley_dt | it actually vectorized the data too |
| 05:15.57 | warthog9 | riley_dt: yeah, I thought that was interesting |
| 05:16.34 | riley_dt | maybe there is an eps output mode in lcov |
| 05:16.43 | riley_dt | there might be i seem to recall something like that |
| 05:17.05 | warthog9 | http://blog.flickr.net/en <--- ok the japanese are totally going to rule the world with giant robots |
| 05:17.27 | rbergeron | "plethora"... NICE |
| 05:18.44 | rbergeron | thoughts on spacing before a cite...now taking confirmations of my thoughts |
| 05:19.13 | jwl_rh | I don't particularly care one way or the other right now, I just want to 'make clean ; make' and get Zzzz. :) |
| 05:19.29 | rbergeron | I'll go with "at least he's consistent here" |
| 05:19.44 | rbergeron | i fixed some parentheses on modak. |
| 05:21.31 | jwl_rh | So nussbaum is after that, on p221 of 340.... |
| 05:21.43 | jwl_rh | (only about 120 left to go!) |
| 05:22.12 | jwl_rh | I'm going to go grab some quick dinner (sandwiches), back in a bit. |
| 05:30.17 | jwl_rh | back |
| 05:31.44 | rbergeron | what the heck is going on with leitao1, section 5.1... right above section 5.2? |
| 05:32.00 | riley_dt | i already pointed that out |
| 05:32.12 | rbergeron | he seems to have done that |
| 05:32.14 | rbergeron | intentionally |
| 05:32.18 | rbergeron | interesting |
| 05:32.28 | rbergeron | good job riley :) i'll give you a cookie later :) |
| 05:32.48 | riley_dt | i better get more then a cookie!! |
| 05:32.59 | rbergeron | i guess if it is intentional, then there must be some point |
| 05:33.10 | rbergeron | i mean that takes a lot of effort to actually make it look that weird. |
| 05:35.21 | rbergeron | "Could we have a true tick less system? Currently Linux claims to be tick less..." |
| 05:36.09 | riley_dt | lcov can put out pngs |
| 05:38.09 | jwl_rh | A true tick less system likely has no troubles with Lyme Disease :) |
| 05:38.26 | jwl_rh | riley_dt: pngs == bitmaps, though. So something else must be doing the cleverness. |
| 05:38.40 | jwl_rh | Maybe a browser saving as PDF? |
| 05:38.47 | jwl_rh | Konqueror can do that. |
| 05:38.56 | warthog9 | jwl_rh: FF can too |
| 05:39.00 | riley_dt | you could print the page as pdf |
| 05:39.02 | warthog9 | (print to pdf anyway) |
| 05:39.33 | jwl_rh | Konq had 'save as pdf' before FF grew it, I think; but it's good that both can do it now. |
| 05:39.40 | jwl_rh | No clue which does it better. |
| 05:39.52 | jwl_rh | More interest in Zzzz than knowing, at least right now :) |
| 05:40.17 | jwl_rh | rbergeron: are there less tick lesses now? ;) |
| 05:44.11 | jwl_rh | Not sure what the deal with section 5.1 is |
| 05:44.24 | rbergeron | well, |
| 05:44.33 | rbergeron | he's consistent in his usage of describing things as "tick less" |
| 05:45.14 | rbergeron | i suppose i should change it to tickless |
| 05:45.17 | rbergeron | that does make sense :) |
| 05:45.43 | jwl_rh | I prefer tickless |
| 05:46.15 | jwl_rh | maybe he was thinking "tick less" vs "bug free" |
| 05:46.18 | rbergeron | He says |
| 05:46.41 | rbergeron | "the kernel has an option to enable a tick less system (CONFIG_NO_HZ) but the tick is only switched off if a processor is idle. |
| 05:46.42 | rbergeron | ....... |
| 05:46.57 | rbergeron | "The description of CONFIG_NO_HZ as enabling a "tick less sytem" is a bit misleading." |
| 05:47.08 | rbergeron | I wonder if there is actually something somewhere in code that says |
| 05:47.09 | jwl_rh | sytem? |
| 05:47.10 | rbergeron | "tick less" |
| 05:47.11 | rbergeron | system |
| 05:47.15 | rbergeron | i'm typing rather than copying / pasting |
| 05:47.21 | jwl_rh | ah |
| 05:47.26 | rbergeron | I did go and fix all his """"" to `` '' |
| 05:47.29 | rbergeron | annnnoying |
| 05:47.43 | jwl_rh | causes multiple nnnnn's, too :) |
| 05:47.45 | rbergeron | but he's literally saying that a description enables a "tick less system" |
| 05:48.09 | jwl_rh | not really, as I read it |
| 05:48.12 | rbergeron | I wonder if it really says that in code and if it is important... or if i should continue making |
| 05:48.13 | rbergeron | tick less |
| 05:48.16 | rbergeron | into space less |
| 05:48.17 | rbergeron | :) |
| 05:48.19 | jwl_rh | "The description (of stuff) is a bit misleading. |
| 05:49.20 | jwl_rh | IOW, CONFIG_STUFF ain't gonna make it tickless in most circumstances. |
| 05:49.53 | jwl_rh | Sleepless, maybe, but not tickless. :) |
| 05:50.04 | jwl_rh | We're now nearly 3hr overdue. :/ |
| 05:50.07 | rbergeron | well he does say that it is a bit misleading :) |
| 05:50.23 | rbergeron | i just committed lameter |
| 05:50.38 | jwl_rh | s/tick less/tickless/g and time to move on? |
| 05:50.45 | jwl_rh | Cool, make sure he doesn't escape :-) |
| 05:50.45 | rbergeron | i believe we should commit suzaki somewhere special next year |
| 05:51.02 | jwl_rh | with extra secure backwards jackets |
| 05:51.40 | jwl_rh | to ensure he can't get near (or use) a keyboard. |
| 05:51.52 | jwl_rh | Is it time to run the final build? |
| 05:51.55 | rbergeron | he needs his daily dose of mavis beacon |
| 05:52.04 | rbergeron | i wanted to check something in the refs in Krishnan super quick. :) |
| 05:52.34 | jwl_rh | Krishnan/ is guaranteed to be hairy. :) |
| 05:52.55 | rbergeron | hmm |
| 05:53.03 | rbergeron | no, the TM after Power ISA looks funny. |
| 05:53.22 | rbergeron | I wonder if there shouldn't be a space between Power ISA \texttrademark Version 2.0.5 |
| 05:53.23 | jwl_rh | It should be \LegalTM\ |
| 05:53.33 | jwl_rh | \texttrademark should never be used. |
| 05:53.43 | rbergeron | and after the TM and Version, it looks like there is no space. |
| 05:53.45 | jwl_rh | It should be ISA\LegalTM\ Version |
| 05:54.18 | jwl_rh | That's because there is no space because there needs to be a \ after the command to preserve the space. |
| 05:54.41 | jwl_rh | And it should be \LegalTM to get the size/position of the "TM" correct. |
| 05:55.05 | jwl_rh | Thus: Power ISA\LegalTM\ Version |
| 05:55.09 | jwl_rh | and => done |
| 05:55.38 | rbergeron | oh, you did it? |
| 05:55.53 | jwl_rh | I did a bunch |
| 05:55.56 | jwl_rh | I don't see it in my copy |
| 05:55.57 | rbergeron | oh |
| 05:56.04 | jwl_rh | perhaps an 'svn update' is in order? :) |
| 05:56.06 | rbergeron | i haven't committed yet krishnan.bib |
| 05:56.36 | rbergeron | he's in. |
| 05:56.41 | jwl_rh | I'm not sure whether \LegalTM works in .bib. Try it, it might. |
| 05:57.06 | rbergeron | it seems to. |
| 05:57.15 | rbergeron | with the TM kind of...upwards? |
| 05:57.18 | rbergeron | ish? |
| 05:57.25 | jwl_rh | yep |
| 05:57.36 | jwl_rh | fwiw, darling/ also has that in a .bib |
| 05:58.01 | jwl_rh | but the code looks sane |
| 05:58.22 | jwl_rh | as does the output |
| 05:58.24 | jwl_rh | good. |
| 05:59.09 | jwl_rh | so... are we in a state of Happily Done now? Or still stuff to check? |
| 05:59.11 | rbergeron | i hereby commit to stop looking if you are going to sleep |
| 05:59.33 | jwl_rh | I'm not asleep on my keyboard yet |
| 05:59.39 | jwl_rh | keyword: yet :) |
| 06:00.09 | jwl_rh | I suspect that, given suzaki, there's nothing that sucks in comparison. |
| 06:00.40 | jwl_rh | If there's nothing worse than suzaki, I think we're done. :) |
| 06:00.55 | jwl_rh | So... is there anything worse than suzaki? |
| 06:01.04 | jwl_rh | A good flogging likely does not qualify... :-) |
| 06:01.33 | jwl_rh | is trying really really hard to be done :-) |
| 06:03.11 | rbergeron | hmm |
| 06:03.23 | rbergeron | a movie starring lindsay lohan and... hmm |
| 06:03.26 | rbergeron | who else is really, really bad |
| 06:03.33 | rbergeron | that might be worse than suzaki |
| 06:03.44 | rbergeron | although with the sound off, probably still more pleasant to the eyes. |
| 06:05.24 | jwl_rh | Could re-make the Princess Bride. Or just do overdubs. Voices of Jackie Chan, Bob Dylan, etc. |
| 06:05.48 | jwl_rh | re-making the Princess Bride would itself be a sin, it's great just the way it is. |
| 06:06.20 | rbergeron | ahhh. a weird footnote in Hawley;s paper. |
| 06:06.22 | rbergeron | 's. |
| 06:06.28 | warthog9 | what?! |
| 06:06.31 | warthog9 | blasphemy! |
| 06:06.34 | rbergeron | lol |
| 06:06.44 | jwl_rh | Remake Casablanca, with Keanu Reaves filling in for Bogart? |
| 06:06.45 | warthog9 | which one? |
| 06:06.45 | rbergeron | From Apache to Mozilla |
| 06:06.50 | rbergeron | after mozilla it says |
| 06:06.52 | rbergeron | 910 |
| 06:06.58 | rbergeron | i'm assuming it should probably say 9, 10 |
| 06:07.03 | rbergeron | unless you have 910 footnotes |
| 06:07.07 | rbergeron | which might cause me seizures |
| 06:07.17 | warthog9 | rbergeron: I totally have 910 footnotes |
| 06:07.22 | rbergeron | I assume there should be a comma between 9 and 10? |
| 06:07.31 | warthog9 | looking |
| 06:07.35 | rbergeron | is that the formally correct thing? |
| 06:07.57 | jwl_rh | yeah, and there's one author who did that (and did it right). |
| 06:08.06 | jwl_rh | saw it tonight, in fact; and forgot which one it is. |
| 06:08.11 | rbergeron | and actually, it says |
| 06:08.25 | rbergeron | GeoDNS-based services, from Apache, to Mozilla to solve the same fundamental mirroring... |
| 06:08.34 | warthog9 | rbergeron: I think your seeing two footnotes back to back |
| 06:08.46 | jwl_rh | vaddagiri/vaddagiri.tex:-I1000}$^{\textrm{,}}$\footnote{The terms \textit{thread} and \textit{task} |
| 06:08.50 | rbergeron | should that possibly be services, from Apache to Mozilla, ??? |
| 06:08.51 | jwl_rh | ^ that's the fix. |
| 06:08.52 | warthog9 | yeah your seeing footnote 9 & 10 |
| 06:08.55 | jwl_rh | or at least one fix. |
| 06:08.58 | rbergeron | yes, and I am thinking there should be a comma between 9 and 10 :) |
| 06:09.08 | rbergeron | and jwl_rh appears to concur |
| 06:09.14 | warthog9 | rbergeron: a superscripted comma, yes |
| 06:09.27 | jwl_rh | should be \footnote{foo}$^{\textrm{,}}$\footnote{bar} |
| 06:09.38 | jwl_rh | Thus, insert: $^{\textrm{,}}$ |
| 06:09.46 | rbergeron | wow that just looks like awesomeness |
| 06:09.53 | warthog9 | mmmmm pure awesome |
| 06:09.55 | jwl_rh | there are other ways to do it |
| 06:09.58 | rbergeron | with guacamole? |
| 06:10.06 | jwl_rh | but look at vaddagiri, it looks fine there. |
| 06:10.12 | jwl_rh | Thus, use what works, be done :) |
| 06:10.21 | rbergeron | it just looked funny for a second. |
| 06:10.25 | rbergeron | it took me a minute to figure out why. |
| 06:10.33 | rbergeron | i guess it actually looked funny for a minute... :) |
| 06:10.37 | rbergeron | 910!!! omg |
| 06:10.42 | jwl_rh | looks like guacamole by the 4th reading. |
| 06:10.47 | warthog9 | that works |
| 06:10.54 | jwl_rh | committed now? |
| 06:11.03 | warthog9 | half a tick |
| 06:11.36 | jwl_rh | zaps the remaining half, making the paper tick less. |
| 06:12.02 | warthog9 | notes jwl_rh has set PAPER_NO_HZ=y |
| 06:12.28 | warthog9 | committed |
| 06:12.32 | warthog9 | and I might be commitable |
| 06:12.37 | jwl_rh | papers are always less painful with No Hertz. :) |
| 06:13.41 | jwl_rh | doing the Final Build now. |
| 06:13.56 | rbergeron | i just committed gonthier.tex |
| 06:13.59 | rbergeron | 2543 |
| 06:14.00 | warthog9 | notes jwl_rh is now running make mrclean |
| 06:14.13 | rbergeron | but it was minor.. just changing his references to this and that in section X to Sections |
| 06:15.09 | jwl_rh | stops the build, svn updates, and restarts the build. |
| 06:15.32 | warthog9 | mmmmm yay make |
| 06:15.53 | jwl_rh | any signs of French in a paper generally means bad punctuation and capitalization ahead. |
| 06:16.17 | jwl_rh | (but this year, french dropped out, so we shouldn't be having those issues, right? :-) |
| 06:17.01 | jwl_rh | hopefully there wasn't any of that "space before punctuation " nonsense in there. |
| 06:17.16 | jwl_rh | I've even seen stuff like~: that. |
| 06:17.57 | jwl_rh | waits for the build |
| 06:18.27 | jwl_rh | and tries to forget about~: constructs like that. That's a paper with HZ and lyme. |
| 06:21.38 | jwl_rh | okay. |
| 06:21.58 | jwl_rh | I think we're done now. .ols-proceedings-2009.pdf on my people page. |
| 06:22.20 | jwl_rh | One last look, everyone? |
| 06:22.38 | rbergeron | indeed |
| 06:22.42 | jwl_rh | No more typo fixing, unless they spell out horrific obscenities. |
| 06:25.06 | *** join/##ols rbergeron (n=rbergero@24.121.241.178) |
| 06:26.12 | jwl_rh | Five more minutes; if nothing Truly Hellacious in that time... We're Done. |
| 06:26.31 | rbergeron | curses at herself |
| 06:26.36 | rbergeron | what is the address again? |
| 06:26.43 | rbergeron | .ols-draft-2009.pdf? |
| 06:26.55 | rbergeron | hates switching computers sometimes |
| 06:27.00 | jwl_rh | <jwl_rh> I think we're done now. .ols-proceedings-2009.pdf on my people page. |
| 06:27.30 | rbergeron | ahh. |
| 06:27.32 | rbergeron | "viola" |
| 06:27.46 | jwl_rh | For what it's worth, both sinha and suzaki have the string 'fuck' in their EPS files. Gotta love embedded binaries :-) |
| 06:28.10 | rbergeron | i think it's a sign |
| 06:28.47 | jwl_rh | sinha also has 'shit' |
| 06:29.03 | rbergeron | no accents over the e in Montreal or Quebec, eh? :) |
| 06:29.10 | jwl_rh | omg. And for the win, sinha also has 'damn'. |
| 06:29.28 | jwl_rh | Those are the only 2 papers with those words anywhere in 'em. Hah. |
| 06:29.50 | jwl_rh | Could do that, I suppose. |
| 06:30.30 | jwl_rh | Montr\'eal would appear to be correct. What's the one for Quebec? |
| 06:30.43 | jwl_rh | Or should we just say "It's English, deal with it?" :) |
| 06:31.21 | jwl_rh | rbergeron: of course, if you have extra Pickiness left over, nobody has touched GCC at all. |
| 06:31.33 | rbergeron | lol |
| 06:31.37 | jwl_rh | aside from 2 changes I made so that the thing would build. |
| 06:31.51 | rbergeron | over the first 3. |
| 06:32.06 | jwl_rh | u, e, and e? |
| 06:32.31 | rbergeron | e. |
| 06:32.32 | rbergeron | ummmm |
| 06:32.42 | rbergeron | sorry, my cat just dumped a soda. bad cat. |
| 06:33.30 | rbergeron | there is a downwards to the left accent on the first e in quebec. |
| 06:33.36 | jwl_rh | Actually... heck with it. |
| 06:33.37 | rbergeron | accent aigu! |
| 06:33.39 | rbergeron | okay. |
| 06:33.42 | rbergeron | sounds good. |
| 06:33.43 | rbergeron | :) |
| 06:33.46 | jwl_rh | The LS.org site doesn't do it |
| 06:34.12 | rbergeron | my laptop is hawt |
| 06:34.13 | jwl_rh | Therefore, I'm not going to research it find the right mark and rebuild it at 02:33 EDT when we wanted to be done at 23:00. :) |
| 06:34.22 | rbergeron | excellent |
| 06:34.43 | jwl_rh | ***** WHEE!!! IT'S D-O-N-E!! ****** |
| 06:37.01 | rbergeron | excellent |
| 06:37.14 | jwl_rh | sends mail to ajh with the link so he can print 'em. |
| 06:37.19 | rbergeron | okay, i have to move onto the next task |
| 06:37.21 | rbergeron | *moan* |
| 06:37.27 | rbergeron | get some sleep. |
| 06:37.29 | jwl_rh | ajh: btw, it shrank to 340 pages |
| 06:38.03 | jwl_rh | rbergeron: will do. BTW, the GCC ones shouldn't be too bad. The authors seem to understand one another, even when they're being incomprehensible. :-) |
| 06:38.10 | rbergeron | lol |
| 06:39.06 | jwl_rh | *** Everyone: THANK YOU for all the hard work *** |
| 06:39.10 | jwl_rh | And with that... |
| 06:39.15 | rbergeron | go to bed |
| 06:39.16 | rbergeron | :) |
| 06:39.28 | jwl_rh | g'night, time to get some Extra Good Sleep... |
| 06:39.34 | rbergeron | nite nite |
| 06:39.44 | jwl_rh | hits the 'away' button |
| 06:39.59 | jwl_rh | (and vanishes...) |
| 06:53.49 | *** join/##ols rbergeron (n=stevenda@24.121.241.178) |
| 06:54.05 | rbergeron | so it is ols? or officially mls this year |
| 06:54.10 | rbergeron | i wonder what to say in twitter |
| 06:54.17 | rbergeron | "i'm having a blast at #mls" |
| 06:54.21 | rbergeron | #linuxsymposium |
| 06:54.23 | rbergeron | perhaps |
| 06:54.25 | rbergeron | hmm |
| 06:54.34 | rbergeron | maybe i should get a life or something :) |
| 07:00.34 | *** part/##ols rbergeron (n=stevenda@24.121.241.178) |
| 16:29.35 | *** join/##ols ajh (n=ajh@174.35.130.95) |
| 16:37.29 | fonseca | Ca va? |
| 16:37.45 | fonseca | Everything is printed? |
| 16:39.16 | ajh | Not even close. Still working out getting the print in the right order. |
| 16:39.57 | ajh | It is very good this is smaller and fewer than before, usually it takes days to run even on big equipment. |
| 16:44.04 | jwl_rh | The final one turned out to be 340 pages; that takes a while. |
| 16:44.36 | jwl_rh | ajh: hopefully no weird font problems or anything thus far? |
| 17:08.06 | ajh | hopefully not, just doing the even pages on the first print. |
| 17:08.51 | ajh | ugh, which apparently need to be printed in reverse order... argh. |
| 19:09.11 | pakrat | No duplex option I assume... |
| 19:34.29 | ajh | No and I am out of time and had to outsource it. |
| 19:34.59 | ajh | Because I was here today trying to get this done and not in Montreal the centre is telling me they want $2000 to open the centre for 2 hours tomorrow to let us install the net access. |
| 19:35.14 | ajh | These people are fucking insane theives. |
| 19:35.45 | ajh | They decided to tell me at the last minute that they were going to charge us $15/day just to have easels for our signs. |
| 19:35.50 | ajh | each. |
| 20:04.24 | warthog9 | good lord |
| 20:39.58 | jwl_rh | ajh: let me know when the proceedings should appear on the web, and I'll populate the ols.fedoraproject.org 2009 directory. |
| 22:03.38 | jwl_rh | wonders what the folks in the montreal centre would say to "Well, then, we can just pound the signs onto your walls with railroad ties, unless you have a more realistic quote." :) |