| 00:00.06 | romanovic | oh interesting, you just see them while you are in port? |
| 00:00.13 | aeryndunham | Yeah, they are all over the place |
| 00:00.17 | aeryndunham | like, every street corner in Boston yesterday |
| 00:00.28 | aeryndunham | I'm always tempted to talk to them |
| 00:15.03 | romanovic | I would be too. having experienced thousands of door to door rejections, I feel kind of bad for them |
| 00:15.49 | aeryndunham | yeah :/ |
| 00:16.28 | romanovic | I always appreciated friendly people stopping for a conversation, even if they ultimately weren't interested in our message |
| 00:17.55 | aeryndunham | I'm pretty annoyed myself that I had no interest in talking to missionaries when I was surrounded by them in SLC |
| 00:25.12 | aeryndunham | But better late than never I suppose |
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| 02:04.08 | resplin | ~botmail for aeryndunham: You probably don't see missionaries very often because they do less cold-contacting than they used to. Instead they work with appointments arranged by members. |
| 02:04.47 | resplin | ~botmail for aeryndunham: But you can always chat online with the missionaries at mormon.org, and they can schedule an appointment with you for when you are in port. |
| 02:05.14 | resplin | I guess botmail can only handle leaving one message at a time. |
| 02:05.26 | resplin | ~botmail help |
| 02:09.18 | Crisco | I don't know... Elder Maynes told us if we had a full day to try to re-set the appointments for another day and contact at least half the day |
| 02:09.31 | Crisco | he basically said that the true work, the hard work, was contacting |
| 02:09.42 | resplin | Interesting. |
| 02:09.51 | Crisco | Though in Russia they can't really do that, can they. |
| 02:10.03 | resplin | Maybe it differs by mission? |
| 02:10.08 | Crisco | Maybe |
| 02:10.13 | Crisco | I was in Latin America |
| 02:10.28 | Crisco | so that is definitely a bit different than the USA |
| 02:10.36 | resplin | But I don't think aeryndunham is going to see many missionaries near Asian crusie ports. |
| 02:10.44 | Crisco | probably not |
| 02:11.05 | resplin | There was a cruise ship port in my area in Lisbon, but we avoided the tourists and focused on people that we would be able to teach. |
| 02:11.35 | resplin | I'll have to remember to make sure she knows about the online missionaries at mormon.org. |
| 02:11.53 | Crisco | voce fala portugues? |
| 02:11.58 | resplin | Sim, falo. |
| 02:12.03 | Crisco | Hehe... My last companion was Brazilian |
| 02:12.08 | resplin | Fun. |
| 02:12.09 | Crisco | I learned a bit of Portuguese |
| 02:12.18 | resplin | From what part of Brazil? |
| 02:13.06 | Crisco | Camaragibe |
| 02:13.12 | Crisco | by Recife |
| 02:13.35 | resplin | Recife is a great town. Nordestinos have a distinct culture to the rest of Brazil. |
| 02:13.36 | Crisco | Let me tell you, teaching a Brazilian Spanish is a bit difficult at times |
| 02:13.40 | resplin | lol |
| 02:13.55 | resplin | I get Spanish and Portuguese confused _all_ _of_ _the_ _time_! |
| 02:14.05 | Crisco | I guess noivo and nuevo were a bit hard for him |
| 02:14.31 | Crisco | some people came up to us our first day and asked "Oh! Ustedes son los nuevos!" and I said yes |
| 02:14.47 | Crisco | he later asked me why I said we were boyfriends |
| 02:15.23 | Crisco | That and always saying "muero" instead of "vivo" |
| 02:15.43 | Crisco | "muero" in Spanish is "die" |
| 02:16.55 | resplin | It is odd that he would confuse those two, because that is one area where Portuguese and Spanish are very similar. |
| 02:17.21 | Crisco | Some things in the pronunciation |
| 02:17.31 | Crisco | but some of the word choices are very different |
| 02:18.48 | Crisco | Was your mission Portugal only or did you also teach in Spain? |
| 02:24.56 | resplin | I served in Lisbon and the Azores, but did get to go to Spain for the temple dedication. |
| 02:25.14 | resplin | Since then I have been to Spain twice on business, as well as Brazil. |
| 02:25.50 | Crisco | Where do you work that lets you travel? |
| 02:26.07 | resplin | It's a software company based in the UK. Alfresco Software |
| 02:26.22 | Crisco | Are you from the UK? |
| 02:27.23 | resplin | No, I'm from Utah. But I visit our various offices to work with the teams, and go to customer events. |
| 02:27.42 | Crisco | Oh, cool |
| 02:27.59 | Crisco | I'll admit, I'd like to travel a bit more, so I'm looking at ways to do so |
| 02:28.27 | resplin | In software, it is easy to end up in a position where you will travel. It's hard to find the balance with family obligations. |
| 02:29.02 | Crisco | Do you wish you travelled less? |
| 02:29.03 | resplin | Working as a consultant, it is easy to be on the road all of the time. It's fun to see new cities, but I only get a couple of hours away from work to get to know the area. |
| 02:29.38 | resplin | I quit that job because I was away from the kids too much. Now I spend a week a month, which is a lot compared to many people but about right for my family. |
| 02:29.44 | resplin | I work at home the rest of the time. |
| 02:29.58 | resplin | Many of my team mates travel one week a quarter. |
| 02:30.12 | resplin | That's a good cadence for a family man. |
| 02:30.15 | resplin | (or woman) |
| 02:30.19 | Crisco | I've thought about the whole work from home thing |
| 02:30.34 | resplin | I've worked from home the last 10 years. It's fantastic. |
| 02:30.45 | Crisco | I assume you have some ground rules so your kids aren't always bothering you while "at-work" |
| 02:30.57 | resplin | Yes. That took some time to establish. |
| 02:31.06 | Crisco | but you have more flexible hours and could conceivably work while travelling |
| 02:31.10 | resplin | And requires discipline to maintain. I leave to use the bathroom and it takes 30 minutes to give everyone a hug and come back. |
| 02:31.52 | resplin | Yes, very flexible. I have coworkers who regularly work from different countries or national parks. As long as they can get a generator near the tent and cell signal. |
| 02:32.23 | resplin | It's a great industry to be in. |
| 02:32.32 | resplin | speaking of that, it's time for me to banish the kids to their beds. |
| 02:32.34 | Crisco | Software consultation? |
| 02:32.40 | resplin | Software in general. |
| 02:32.45 | Crisco | Ah, okay |
| 02:33.00 | resplin | I'm currently a product manager, but have been in technical marketing, developer evangelism, community management, consulting, support, etc. |
| 02:33.11 | resplin | I have enjoyed changing roles every couple of years. |
| 02:33.21 | Crisco | I'm looking at security analysis/security research |
| 02:33.27 | Crisco | that sounds pretty fun |
| 02:33.37 | Crisco | breaking other people's code instead of writing your own |
| 02:33.40 | resplin | Yeah, that's fun. I never got certified, but enjoy the security side of things. |
| 02:33.47 | resplin | The key is to remember it is a global market. |
| 02:34.12 | resplin | If you only look for local employers, you will end up working somewhere local and they will think you need to go to the office and make a local salary. |
| 02:34.52 | resplin | But if you build a good network, establish a reputation online (blogs, github, open source), and care about learning new stuff all the time, you will find some great opportunities. |
| 02:35.42 | Crisco | Well, that sounds like something I could do |
| 02:35.51 | Crisco | You know, the future doesn't look so dim after all |
| 02:36.27 | Crisco | resplin, thanks for all the advice and everything |
| 02:39.03 | resplin | It's a great future for those that can combine technical skills with the ability to talk to regular people. But you can never rest or it will leave you behind. |
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