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03:43.24venduhey starshine? :)
03:45.50starshineello dere
03:46.04venduhehe
03:46.07venduhow's it going?:)
03:46.14starshinebetter than earlier...
03:46.58starshineI'm having a mocha, reading an exam book on techie goodness, and enjoying some cool jazz that's not too horribly repeittetietietive ;P
03:47.18starshineI almost feel human again.
03:47.47venduhehe
03:47.48venducool :)
03:47.54vendustarshine: i feel like an idiot :)
03:47.59starshinehowso?
03:48.05vendui'm attempting to fix some bugs in rterm i thought i fixed ages ago :)
03:48.22starshineoh
03:48.24starshineok
03:48.26venduhehe
03:48.29venduwell
03:48.36starshineforgot to check em in eh?
03:48.42venduwas being sorta humorous, but this does get annoying at times :)
03:49.13vendustarshine: i don't do repositories :P
03:50.17starshineoh ok
03:50.24venduhehe
03:50.26venduwell
03:50.36venduthis might be something related to the massive revamp of the code base :)
03:50.38starshineI recall my first sense of source control was 'use up a gig drive with copies'
03:50.50starshineback when a gig drive was an utter rarity it was funnier to say that
03:52.21vendu:)
03:52.34vendustarshine: i had a 300-meg disk around '89, it ruled =)
03:52.42venduit was much bigger than any of my friends had :P
03:53.55starshine<backinmyday>I knew someone who was forced to use a given OS cuz it was the only one that would handle a 10 meg drive</backinmyday>
03:54.25JonathanDamazing.
03:54.43vendustarshine: :)
03:54.54vendustarshine: so i take it you've turned 21 quite a few times :P
03:54.58vendu=)
03:55.00JonathanDegads
03:55.04vendusorry for my bad humor :)
03:55.08vendui'm 34 myself
03:55.28vendubrb, getting coffee :)
03:55.38starshinevendu: I appear to have completely missed the chance to be a freewheeling teenager, several times
03:57.06vendu:P
03:57.36JonathanDI've only missed it once.
03:57.49JonathanDtough to freewheel with an infant :P
03:58.00JonathanDbut I still have my midlife crisis to look forward to!
04:01.08vendustarshine: :(
04:01.32vendujonathand: the thing about having only one life is that you don't have to not have one but only once :)
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04:35.17JKnifeand what is reincarnation is real?
04:35.24JKnifes/is/if/
04:35.39JKnifethen you would have many chances
04:35.41JKnifevendu, ^
04:36.23vendu:)
04:36.28vendujknife: hehe
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05:28.30JKnifewhat is a good light weight photo manager for Linux that uses GTK?
05:29.50starshineum
05:30.03starshinefvwm uses gtk if you insist, but it doesn't really
05:30.16starshineit's light mainly because you leave out modules you don't want.
05:30.24starshineI believe 'amaterus' was a gtk wm
05:31.30JKnifephoto manager not window manager
05:31.30JKnife:3
05:32.07starshineoohhhh
05:32.15starshinenvm me
05:32.18starshine;P
05:32.19JKnife:)
05:32.22JKnifeit is ok
05:32.26JKnife~hug starshine
05:32.26jbotACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs starshine
05:33.36starshinegood bot, have a donut
05:34.04JKnifethe bot does my bidding :D
05:34.23JKnife?
05:34.25JKnifewhats wrong?
05:35.04starshinelack of compassion == bug
05:35.10starshinenot here
05:35.14starshinesomewhere else
05:35.24starshineI have no good way to evade dealing with it
05:35.32JKnife:\
05:35.35starshineexcept to evade dealing with other things that I ought to
05:35.42starshineit.. distresses me
05:37.05starshineI don't think I have any good answer left available to me :(
05:38.14starshineheh
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10:01.01L4m3r>_>
10:01.05L4m3risn't it a bit late?
10:03.41QuantumBeep!!!
10:03.43unic0rn:P
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14:45.48tonyyarussoOdd tidbit of the day: it's probably a really good thing I have a loft bed, and therefore am far away from items in my room
14:46.14tonyyarussoI think I was pretty close to sleep-calling one of my friends around 4am today while I was dreaming
14:46.38tonyyarussoThat would have been awkward to explain... :S  "Uh, it was a normal time in the dream..."
14:51.58inchwormhehe
14:52.07JonathanDmy laptop won't turn on.
14:52.28inchworm?
14:52.34inchworm!
14:52.35JonathanDit be dead.
14:52.45JonathanDcharge light won't come on
14:52.48JonathanDand it won't power on
14:52.50inchwormovernight, it gave up the ghost?
14:52.59JonathanDseems so.
14:53.11inchwormhmm, did someone steal the battery overnight?
14:53.16JonathanDno
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14:53.22JonathanDit's been acting dorky for a couple days
14:53.34JonathanDturning off on it's own
14:53.42inchwormhrmph
14:53.42JonathanDbeing reluctant to turn back on.
14:54.01JonathanDtime to ask the boss for a new one!
14:54.16inchwormheh
14:54.37inchwormwonder if the laptop could be repaired easily or if it's something like a crack in a board internally
14:54.48JonathanDit's still under warrenty
14:54.56JonathanDbut barely so, so I wonder if they will play games with me.
14:55.15JonathanDmeanwhile, theres a couple spares around
14:55.53inchwormhmm
14:56.07inchwormplaying games with warrenties is a good way to lose customers...
14:56.19inchwormso i'd say no, and let them prove me wrong :)
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15:02.32JonathanDinchworm: on the other hand, I wouldn't mind a dual core... :P
15:02.41JonathanDwith that semi-decent nvidia graphics card.
15:03.21JonathanDalso, while XP is still an option.
15:05.49inchwormtrue
15:09.49JonathanDso, we may just place a bulk order for the 6 people due for replacement this year.
15:09.53JonathanDbefore Jan.
15:19.01inchwormreasonable
15:19.08inchwormhow long did it last at least?
15:19.13inchwormonly one year?
15:19.17inchwormthree years?
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15:27.18JonathanD2.5
15:30.45inchwormguess that isn't too bad for a laptop
15:35.03tonyyarussoI'd love to pick up a nice System76 though.
15:43.25inchwormthose do look nice
15:43.52inchwormkinda pricy though
15:44.05inchwormmaybe you have to spend that to get good hardware that works..
16:00.20JonathanDamazing.
16:00.35JonathanDubuntu detected my network printer.
16:00.38JonathanDand it just works.
16:10.56inchwormhehe
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16:41.48JonathanDjust specd out my next laptop :)
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17:37.38jendaSportChick: thanks!
17:37.53jendaSportChick: actually, it's the 7th day of Chanukka today ;)
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17:55.45awilcoxJonathanD: 8)  my laptop's power cord acted freaky a few years ago, turned out the motherboard power connector solder had came loose.  quick PCB replacement, and everything was nice again :)
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18:19.13awilcoxhmm
18:19.28awilcoxI wonder if I can execute programs and parse their output in Perl.
18:20.22deryniIf the application dumps to stdout or stderr, sure.
18:21.11awilcoxderyni: yep, stdout
18:21.27awilcoxThe other problem is I have no idea how to create an SSH identity file to run the command remotely.
18:21.40awilcox...*must Google more*
18:21.52deryniYou mean an ssh key?
18:22.24awilcoxHonestly, I have no idea.
18:22.31awilcoxI mean what you pass to ssh with -i
18:22.43awilcoxthe manpage calls it an identity file, so that's what I'm Googling.
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18:23.35deryniYeah, that's an ssh key.
18:23.43awilcoxOkay then, that's what I need :)
18:23.58derynissh-keygen
18:24.06awilcoxooh, nice
18:24.16awilcoxpassphrase?
18:24.26awilcoxI assume this has nothing to do with my login password.
18:24.59deryniIt doesn't.
18:25.06deryniIt is the passphrase for the key.
18:25.18awilcoxdo I have to enter it every time I log in?
18:25.26deryniIt can be empty for a key that needs to be used 'headless' though that carries obvious security implications.
18:25.40awilcoxyes, headless is the point.
18:25.41deryniYou need to enter it everytime you use the key, unless you use an ssh-agent.
18:26.00awilcoxit's staying on my private box.
18:26.03deryniWith an ssh-agent you enter it once per 'session'.
18:26.24awilcoxThis ssh command is going into an irssi script.
18:26.49awilcoxI don't know if I can give it a passphrase or not.  Obviously typing it into an IRC client leads to the chance that I spill it all over freenode.
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18:30.28awilcoxargh, the cause of my low disk space condition has been found!  an old Kubuntu ISO.
18:31.37awilcoxssh_askpass: exec(/usr/bin/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory
18:31.37awilcoxPermission denied, please try again.
18:31.37awilcoxssh_askpass: exec(/usr/bin/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory
18:31.37awilcoxPermission denied, please try again.
18:31.37awilcoxssh_askpass: exec(/usr/bin/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory
18:31.39awilcoxPermission denied (publickey,password).
18:31.43awilcox!
18:31.48awilcoxI didn't paste that.
18:35.31awilcoxthis isn't working; it's still asking me for my login password when I do "ssh -i <the file> andreww@10.0.1.4"
18:37.43deryniDid you add the key to the authorized_keys file on that host?
18:38.57awilcox>_>  I didn't read that in any manual I read.
18:39.59deryniYou add the public key from your local machine to authorized_keys on the remote machine.
18:42.22awilcox~/.ssh/authorized_keys doesn't exist, do I just mv id_rsa.pub .ssh/authorized_keys  ?
18:42.56deryniOn the remote host with a copy of id_rsa.pub, yes.
18:42.59awilcoxthen when I need to add more, cat new_public_key>>~/.ssh/authorized_keys
18:43.01awilcox?
18:43.08deryniAs far as I know, yes.
18:43.10awilcoxAlright.
18:43.37awilcoxIt's still asking for a password =/
18:44.32deryniYou need to make sure you have key auth turned on in sshd, though I think that should be on by default most places.
18:44.37awilcoxsh-3.1$ ssh -i <the private rsa key> andreww@10.0.1.4 echo it worked
18:44.44awilcoxandreww@10.0.1.4's password:
18:44.49deryniAnd you did set up authorized_keys for the correct user, right?
18:44.54awilcoxderyni: it's a new Debian Etch install.
18:45.30awilcoxderyni: ...on the REMOTE machine!?
18:45.33awilcox>_>
18:45.56awilcoxssh: echo: Name or service not known
18:45.59deryniYes, the remote machine needs to know about the key you want to use, otherwise how else could it authenticate you?
18:45.59awilcoxO_O
18:46.11awilcoxssh_askpass: exec(/usr/bin/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory
18:46.11awilcoxPermission denied, please try again.
18:46.11awilcoxssh_askpass: exec(/usr/bin/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory
18:46.11awilcoxPermission denied, please try again.
18:46.11awilcoxssh_askpass: exec(/usr/bin/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory
18:46.13awilcoxPermission denied (publickey,password).
18:46.18awilcox...why does it keep doing that.
18:46.23awilcoxit works outside of irssi.
18:46.44awilcoxthank you deryni, this is being echoed from ssh.
18:46.48awilcox\o/!
18:47.05awilcoxexec -o > * ;)
18:47.15awilcoxNow I can make my irssi script.
18:47.18deryniIf irssi is triggering that then I think that means it isn't using your key correctly, but I'm not 100% sure.
18:47.32awilcoxyeah I forgot to specify a username, deryni, I fixed it now :)
18:47.40awilcoxThank you very very much for all your help.
18:47.56deryniNo problem.
18:48.00awilcoxNow I get to experience the "thrill" of making an irssi script.
18:48.10deryniWhat are you scripting?
18:49.14awilcoxPromise not to lart me?  a now playing script that uses ssh to connect to my remote media player
18:49.31awilcoxthere are times where /nowplaying comes in handy...
18:50.05awilcoxI've already tested all the interfaces, and I've got it to work on the command line.
18:50.10deryniSo it is going to ssh in to the remote machine and run 'music_player --get-info' and then dump that to the channel? Essentially.
18:51.52awilcoxwell, echo $(dcop --user andreww amarok player title) by $(dcop --user andreww amarok player artist)
18:52.19awilcoxa little nicer than dumping all info to a channel :)
18:53.00awilcoxI could just alias it, but I'd like to be able to do like /nowplaying --album or /nowplaying --with-time
18:53.19deryniRight.
18:57.17deryniI'm assuming you can't make remote dcop queries?
18:57.46awilcoxHmm.
18:58.01awilcoxNot according to khelpcenter.
18:59.15awilcoxNope, you can't make remote dcop queries.  That's actually kinda dumb.
18:59.56deryniIt makes sense, but is unfortunate.
19:00.01awilcoxhmm, I'm thinking.  why not add --play, --pause, --stop, et cetera?  It's all dcop-accessible, and it adds some functionality.
19:00.37awilcoxbut in reality, only the need-to-haves get written in :P
19:01.31awilcoxNow the question is, how do I write this stupid thing?  I have no idea how to execute programs from within Perl, nor do I know how to script for irssi.
19:01.55deryniDo you want to write this yourself? Or should I tell you about the amarok_ssh script I just found for irssi? =)
19:02.30awilcoxlol.  I guess I should Google for the script I want *before* I start prewriting it.
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19:03.20awilcoxwell obviously I had a good idea considering someone else already wrote it.
19:04.03awilcox...it even has play/pause/stop functionality!
19:04.04deryniIt is on the irssi scripts page, but it doesn't support using -i to ssh, so you'd need to hack that in, make the key your default key, or use the ~/.ssh/config file for it.
19:05.03awilcoxOh teh noes.  The comments are in German.
19:05.24deryniNot all of them. =)
19:05.49awilcoxhmm, my great-grandmother was German, I should be able to figure this out.
19:06.15deryniThe help text is English and that looks to be about all you need.
19:06.59awilcoxhmm
19:07.22awilcoxthe hacker in me wants to set the IP to "-i <key> andreww@10.0.1.4"
19:07.40deryniNice.
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19:10.39awilcoxum.  I hope that didn't make it through to the channel.
19:10.59awilcoxderyni: you don't see a 15-line message about remote host identification, right?
19:11.06deryniNope.
19:11.15awilcoxgood.
19:11.24awilcoxUm.  Someone is doing something nasty?
19:14.16awilcox:( I am such a noob with ssh.
19:14.22awilcoxthis is what I see.  http://rafb.net/p/Fc93qX52.html
19:15.06deryniThe ssh key for the remote host changed since ssh first saw it and you accepted it.
19:15.11awilcoxIt looks like it's trying to ssh to localhost O.o
19:15.22deryniIf that is ok, follow the directions it gives you.
19:15.43awilcoxderyni: um.  Do keys randomly change while openssh-server is running?
19:15.46deryniAnd yeah, it looks like it might be trying localhost.
19:15.57deryniI don't believe they should, no.
19:16.28deryniWhat host is on line 13 of known_hosts?
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19:17.06awilcoxderyni: the whole known_hosts file is a bunch of encrypted "garble"
19:17.27deryniBah, I hate that ssh new default.
19:17.29deryniHold on.
19:17.37awilcoxOkay.
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19:18.52awilcox~lart ssh for being so complex
19:18.52jbotblasts ssh to oblivion with a kamehameha wave for being so complex
19:18.53deryniTry 'ssh-keygen -F localhost' and 'ssh-keygen -F 10.0.1.4' and see if either of those is on line 13.
19:19.06awilcoxO_O
19:19.23awilcox# Host localhost found: line 13 type RSA
19:20.25awilcox14:06 amarok_ssh_client = -i <key filename censored because I'm paranoid> andreww@10.0.1.4
19:21.03deryniDid you keep $HOME around over a machine reinstall?
19:21.23awilcoxderyni: no, I always back up the /home partition and erase it
19:21.37awilcoxout of "fear" that something like this will happen
19:21.47awilcoxthe only thing I copy back is .fvwm
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19:22.31deryniBecause that could cause a stale localhost key entry. Regardless, since you aren't trying to connect to localhost you should fix whatever is trying to do that and you can delete line 13 if you feel like it. "ssh-keygen -R localhost" Which will remove all keys for localhost from known_hosts.
19:22.41awilcoxokay
19:22.58awilcoxderyni: it's just...strange...because ssh'ing to localhost has caused this before
19:23.09awilcoxit seems to change its key every time it is rebooted
19:23.21deryniYou can also turn off hashed hostnames in the ssh config if you don't want them, I do that because my wm supports ssh host completion and not de-hashing.
19:23.47awilcoxyour _wm_ supports completion?
19:23.51awilcoxyou don't mean shell?
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19:24.00deryniI meant wm.
19:24.28deryniThough my shell does also.
19:24.59awilcoxunless...have they finally made an X ssh client?
19:25.26deryniNo, it spawns my terminal and runs ssh for me.
19:25.40deryniBut the completion comes in my wm 'ssh' query.
19:25.54awilcoxWow.
19:26.30awilcox>_> I don't see where "CLIENTCRAP" is opened or closed.
19:27.09awilcoxOooh, I wonder if I need to escape the filename.
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19:27.24deryniCLIENTCRAP should be an irssi level
19:28.16awilcoxaugh!  how do I make it re(draw?) the bar?
19:28.40deryniThough I didn't know that the levels worked as print targets like that.
19:28.45derynictrl-l?
19:29.12awilcoxderyni: thank you :)
19:29.21SlynderdaleHmm, anyone here know of a good CMS software written in PHP? Something really easy to use but customizable?
19:29.42awilcoxSlynderdale: I wrote one if your definition of CMS is the same as mine
19:29.43orangewordpress
19:29.57awilcoxSlynderdale: How do you define CMS?
19:30.35Slynderdalecontent management software? ;p Basicly a front end for a website and possibly intergrating them with PHPBB
19:31.57awilcoxSlynderdale: well, mine simply reads a list of top-level nav items from a mysql database, and makes a little table for them at the top of the page (or alternatively, I hacked left-navibar-using-CSS support in)
19:32.35tonyyarussoSlynderdale: I've also been looking for one, and leaning towards Drupal.
19:32.48tonyyarussoJoomla also seems to be highly regarded
19:33.38awilcox:S
19:33.59awilcoxmy monitor is sort of strange...it's powered off now and things are still clinging to it
19:34.26awilcoxand it's not just clinging to the glass, but to the whole case of the monitor
19:34.41awilcoxI have some pieces of paper under the monitor that is gravitating.
19:34.45Slynderdaletonyyarusso: Joomla and Drupal seems to be the top two right now
19:34.47awilcoxs/is/are/
19:35.00Slynderdaletonyyarusso: http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/joomla-and-drupal-%11-which-one-is-right-for-you?/
19:35.08awilcoxis that, uh, normal?
19:35.31tonyyarussoSlynderdale: as I understand it, Drupal is more powerful, Joomla more "dummy-safe"
19:36.45awilcoxhmm, I should prolly ask on ##hardware.
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19:47.42tonyyarussoSlynderdale: that's a restricted site, btw
19:48.20Slynderdaletonyyarusso: Restricted site?
19:48.36tonyyarussorequires registration
19:49.21Slynderdaletonyyarusso: Weird :/ Works for me
19:49.32tonyyarussoyou must be logged in
19:49.43SlynderdaleNope, found the site via google
19:50.50tonyyarussohmm, it seems to treat it by referrer
19:50.59tonyyarussoI just couldn't go directy to that page
19:51.20orangeodd, I did
19:51.28orangeand I'm definitely not registered there
19:51.35Slynderdaletonyyarusso: I can go directly to it ;p
19:52.14tonyyarussomaybe they hate comcast :P
19:52.39SlynderdaleEwwwww Comcast?
19:52.51tonyyarussoya
19:54.48JonathanDdoesn't everyone hate comcast?
19:55.15tonyyarussoyay cloak
19:55.36JonathanDthere are no cloaks there :p
19:56.00awilcoxtonyyarusso: http://76.26.0.123/alledia.png
19:56.01tonyyarussohrm?
19:56.06SlynderdaleI say we ban comcast fromm the interwebs
19:56.10awilcoxthat's what I get, just cut-and-paste from IRC
19:56.20tonyyarussoawilcox: yeah, I got there now
19:56.25awilcoxSlynderdale: noooo :(
19:57.03Slynderdalehttp://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=comcast
19:57.42SlynderdaleHaha "Comcast Sued Over P2P Blocking "
19:58.21Slynderdale""According to a thread on the forums of AnimeSuki, a popular anime bittorent index site, Comcast has begun sending DCMA letters to customers downloading unlicensed fan-subtitled anime shows via bittorrent. By 'unlicensed', they mean that no english language company has the rights to it."
19:58.23SlynderdaleEww
20:01.07SlynderdaleThough well, most ISPs in the US suck, Comcast just ranks the highest.
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