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| 00:12.39 | JKnife | OMG OMG OMG |
| 00:12.50 | JKnife | IZ THINK IT BE RAINING!!!! |
| 00:13.15 | JKnife | >.> |
| 00:13.15 | Argooon | <.< |
| 00:13.16 | JKnife | brb |
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| 00:29.48 | heavenquake | a little middle-of-the-night snack |
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| 00:39.16 | Pumpernickel | mmm... |
| 00:39.21 | Pumpernickel | Pizza. :) |
| 00:52.29 | RudyValencia | I gotta rant |
| 00:52.31 | RudyValencia | Though I have three whole computers and the parts for several more, I still can't find any good computer parts. Maybe perhaps I need to throw some money at the problem? |
| 00:56.07 | essybot | ::Pogovina:: 1 Day Old @ http://pogovina.livejournal.com/55417.html |
| 00:56.10 | inchworm | money solves all problems donncha know? |
| 01:02.59 | inchworm | come it!! |
| 01:03.26 | inchworm | s/it/in/ |
| 01:06.46 | inchworm | how can that possibly work?! I was inside, mviron was outside... how can he push me through the door!??! |
| 01:07.05 | mvironwork | inchworm: it's clone mviron! |
| 01:07.06 | mvironwork | lol |
| 01:07.24 | inchworm | noooo attack of the clone! |
| 01:15.31 | RudyValencia | anyway |
| 01:15.42 | inchworm | heh |
| 01:15.46 | RudyValencia | I need help getting computer parts that work |
| 01:15.48 | RudyValencia | What can I so? |
| 01:15.51 | RudyValencia | *do? |
| 01:15.54 | inchworm | robbery... |
| 01:16.02 | RudyValencia | I'm not a thief |
| 01:16.30 | inchworm | uh, well that cuts down some options and opens some others :) |
| 01:16.54 | RudyValencia | I need a decent, cheap source for computer parts and/or whole computers |
| 01:17.34 | RudyValencia | A lot of people in my community are asking for computers and I have been turning them away because I have nothing that is in working condition |
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| 01:20.24 | inchworm | i don't have a good idea right now... |
| 01:21.11 | JKnife | HOLY ****! The next iD game is NOT a shooter! BUT a racing game! http://www.quakeunity.com/file=2513 |
| 01:22.06 | inchworm | that's a bad thing? |
| 01:23.06 | JKnife | no, just a surprise to me :X |
| 01:24.12 | JKnife | long time as in the past 2 games? |
| 01:24.21 | JKnife | cause the past 2 was DooM3 and Quake3 :X |
| 01:24.31 | JKnife | they didn't do Quake4 |
| 01:25.11 | inchworm | well... i don't have a computer with more than 64meg of video ram... |
| 01:25.34 | JKnife | mine only has 64meg ram ^-^ |
| 01:25.55 | inchworm | so you understand my point :) |
| 01:26.30 | JKnife | nope |
| 01:27.40 | inchworm | oh forgetaboutit |
| 01:27.48 | inchworm | :) |
| 01:27.57 | inchworm | i'm broke? |
| 01:28.06 | inchworm | i'm always broke? even after payday? |
| 01:30.18 | JKnife | lol |
| 01:34.22 | JKnife | cause your intertubez be gloged! |
| 01:34.37 | JKnife | o.O iDs new game.. 2 DVDs or 1 blu-ray |
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| 01:48.00 | awilcox | JKnife: a racing game!? |
| 01:48.14 | JKnife | FPS/Racing :P |
| 01:48.22 | awilcox | like bzflag? |
| 01:48.29 | awilcox | but with racing? |
| 01:48.29 | JKnife | no |
| 01:48.34 | JKnife | like GTA |
| 01:48.35 | JKnife | >.> |
| 01:48.35 | Argooon | <.< |
| 01:48.36 | JKnife | <.< |
| 01:48.44 | awilcox | Ahh, okay. |
| 01:49.06 | awilcox | I like NFS better |
| 01:49.07 | JKnife | AND |
| 01:49.09 | JKnife | Quake 5 \o/ |
| 01:49.28 | awilcox | Quake 5? |
| 01:49.33 | awilcox | what happened to 4? |
| 01:49.45 | JKnife | >.> |
| 01:49.45 | Argooon | <.< |
| 01:49.50 | inchworm | wasn't that return to castle wolfenstein? |
| 01:49.51 | JKnife | was released in like Oct |
| 01:49.54 | JKnife | no no |
| 01:50.00 | JKnife | Quake 4 was Quake 2 p2 |
| 01:50.01 | JKnife | :X |
| 01:50.16 | JKnife | Q1, then Q2 followed by Q4, and Q3 was its own little thing |
| 01:50.31 | JKnife | www.quake4game.com/ |
| 01:50.44 | awilcox | hmm. |
| 01:52.30 | JKnife | "The first is codenamed Quake Zero, a FREE web based version of Quake 3. Yes, web based, as in you play it in your browser" :D |
| 01:52.33 | JKnife | WIN!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:52.38 | JKnife | >.> |
| 01:52.38 | Argooon | <.< |
| 01:52.47 | JKnife | people QuakeCon is like E3 to me |
| 01:52.47 | inchworm | hehe |
| 01:52.58 | JKnife | iD was my other set of parents... ^-^ |
| 01:53.06 | awilcox | heh |
| 01:53.20 | JKnife | they only let me down with DooM3 and the Movie ;_; |
| 01:53.37 | awilcox | movie? |
| 01:53.43 | JKnife | which I will give them DooM3 IF they never made the others |
| 01:53.47 | JKnife | awilcox, -_- |
| 01:53.54 | JKnife | YOU DON'T KNOW?! |
| 01:53.58 | JKnife | :O |
| 01:54.08 | awilcox | :O |
| 01:54.24 | awilcox | JKnife: no, I don't know about any movie. |
| 01:54.27 | awilcox | inchworm: :D |
| 01:54.53 | JKnife | awilcox, http://www.doommovie.com/ |
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| 02:07.14 | tannerld_mac | bleh |
| 02:07.21 | tannerld_mac | 923 |
| 02:07.33 | tannerld_mac | 923MB - 7 hours....remaining |
| 02:15.10 | awilcox | tannerld_mac: what are you transferring? and what protocol are you using? |
| 02:15.33 | tannerld_mac | downloading xcode |
| 02:16.06 | tannerld_mac | heh |
| 02:16.18 | tannerld_mac | 21.7KB/sec |
| 02:16.54 | awilcox | Eeesh. |
| 02:16.58 | awilcox | ADSL? |
| 02:17.06 | tannerld_mac | wireless |
| 02:17.12 | awilcox | ahh. |
| 02:17.15 | awilcox | go hook up! |
| 02:17.48 | tannerld_mac | blah |
| 02:18.29 | awilcox | hehe |
| 02:30.15 | awilcox | O_o? |
| 02:32.01 | altoid | >_> |
| 02:32.01 | Argooon | <_< |
| 02:38.42 | RudyValencia | http://www.rudyvalencia.com/images/oldchicago-big.jpg <- how's this for a photo of a business? |
| 02:42.17 | Vampier | the bike fell over |
| 02:43.35 | RudyValencia | But would this work for, say, a reviews site? |
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| 03:02.39 | AWOSLappy | RudyValencia: I would have taken an inside shot, tbh, but it's good for an outside shot |
| 03:02.58 | RudyValencia | AWOSLappy: I don't think I would've been able to get an inside whot |
| 03:02.59 | AWOSLappy | it's a tad "film-esque" for a digital camera, you need to sharpen it / focus |
| 03:02.59 | RudyValencia | *shot |
| 03:03.15 | RudyValencia | AWOSLappy: If I sharpen it it messes up |
| 03:03.21 | AWOSLappy | hmm. |
| 03:05.53 | RudyValencia | What could I use a 40GB hard drive for? |
| 03:06.07 | inchworm | custom ipod... |
| 03:06.35 | RudyValencia | It's a 3.5" IDE disk |
| 03:07.00 | RudyValencia | That'd be one hell of a large MP3 player |
| 03:07.20 | RudyValencia | (then again, maybe I could make one of my Celeron 500's into a jukebox |
| 03:08.38 | RudyValencia | lightning outside |
| 03:09.44 | RudyValencia | hm |
| 03:10.04 | RudyValencia | I found a Jumpstart Kindergarten CD in one of the CD drives from the computers I got from that school |
| 03:10.05 | AWOSLappy | RudyValencia: that's my servers primary disk |
| 03:10.09 | AWOSLappy | a 40GB 3.5" IDE |
| 03:10.19 | AWOSLappy | RudyValencia: neat. ebay it, or play it :P |
| 03:10.30 | RudyValencia | heh |
| 03:10.36 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: I finally found time to open Netscape. all I can say is "awwwwwwwwwwwww". |
| 03:10.40 | RudyValencia | maybe I will send it back (after making a torrent of it) |
| 03:10.48 | AWOSLappy | RudyValencia: hehe |
| 03:10.51 | AWOSLappy | you mean an ISO? |
| 03:12.12 | RudyValencia | yeah |
| 03:12.16 | RudyValencia | and then a torrent of that ISO |
| 03:12.23 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: I would never have guessed in a million years that rats could be so cute. but...awwwww! |
| 03:12.39 | AWOSLappy | RudyValencia: ahh. |
| 03:12.49 | RudyValencia | I have a 667MHz tower computer I'm gonna make into an MP3 jukebox |
| 03:14.14 | RudyValencia | if it can have two HD's, one will be 40GB to store MP3s, the other will be smaller, to store the OS |
| 03:14.36 | RudyValencia | hm, no room |
| 03:14.42 | RudyValencia | unless wait |
| 03:15.54 | RudyValencia | I'll just use about 6GB for the boot OS, and the rest for the MP3s. |
| 03:20.17 | RudyValencia | AWOSLappy: what bootloader is AWOS using? |
| 03:20.30 | RudyValencia | GRUB? LILO? DOS? |
| 03:20.50 | RudyValencia | custom?\ |
| 03:21.14 | AWOSLappy | RudyValencia: GRUB |
| 03:21.24 | AWOSLappy | um, it can't do MP3s right now, RudyValencia |
| 03:21.29 | RudyValencia | ah |
| 03:21.38 | RudyValencia | What can? Win2000 perhaps? |
| 03:21.53 | AWOSLappy | Win95 can |
| 03:21.56 | AWOSLappy | it's tiny and small |
| 03:22.11 | AWOSLappy | or any FOSS system (Linux, *BSD, ReactOS) |
| 03:22.11 | vendu | freebsd! |
| 03:22.12 | vendu | :) |
| 03:22.22 | AWOSLappy | vendu: me likey NetBSD |
| 03:22.30 | vendu | hehe |
| 03:22.36 | AWOSLappy | vendu: and remember, every time you use a port, that *we* (NetBSD) *gave* you those! |
| 03:22.53 | AWOSLappy | :) |
| 03:23.06 | vendu | bah, that's all new! let's get back to 386bsd 0.1! :) |
| 03:23.25 | RudyValencia | I want something I can make an easy frontend for |
| 03:25.13 | RudyValencia | AWOSLappy: Are you good at graphic programming? |
| 03:27.12 | vendu | what kind of graphics stuff do you need? |
| 03:27.19 | vendu | imlib2 is pretty cool if you mostly mess with images |
| 03:27.39 | RudyValencia | I'm making a MP3 jukebox out of a 667MHz Celeron with 128MB RAM |
| 03:28.19 | vendu | hmm :) |
| 03:28.29 | vendu | that's totally doable :) |
| 03:28.46 | RudyValencia | I want it to have a GUI interface |
| 03:29.01 | vendu | xmms? xine? something :P |
| 03:29.15 | vendu | audacious might be kinda sloppy with big playlists |
| 03:29.25 | RudyValencia | No, more like a jukebox at the bar |
| 03:29.26 | vendu | codewarrior was working on some mp3 player (in enlightenment cvs) |
| 03:29.43 | vendu | ah, well, you could always try freshmeat.net :) |
| 03:29.47 | vendu | or sourceforge :) |
| 03:29.57 | vendu | search for jukebox :) |
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| 03:35.09 | RudyValencia | vendu: I was planning on using something light, not Linux |
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| 03:46.32 | AWOSLappy | RudyValencia: "light, not Linux" --> You couldn't mean that Windows 2000 is lighter. |
| 03:46.43 | AWOSLappy | RudyValencia: NetBSD + modular-xorg = light. Windows 2000 != light. |
| 03:49.30 | RudyValencia | brb |
| 03:49.31 | Pogovina | does anyone know how to submit a pic to cuteoverload.com? |
| 03:59.59 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: not sure. |
| 04:00.04 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: did you see my comments above? |
| 04:01.07 | Pogovina | no, i didn't :( |
| 04:01.32 | Pogovina | i didnt scroll up fast enough and my computer went wonky and gave me a bunch of messages |
| 04:02.41 | AWOSLappy | Lemme find them. |
| 04:02.57 | AWOSLappy | Noting it is right now 20:02 on here |
| 04:03.21 | AWOSLappy | 19:10 < AWOSLappy> Pogovina: I finally found time to open Netscape. all I can say is "awwwwwwwwwwwww". |
| 04:03.43 | AWOSLappy | 19:11 < AWOSLappy> Pogovina: I would never have guessed in a million years that rats could be so cute. but...awwwww! |
| 04:05.11 | Pogovina | aww, thanks!! |
| 04:05.21 | AWOSLappy | :) |
| 04:05.28 | Pogovina | they're in their ugly hairless stage according to spldart |
| 04:05.40 | Pogovina | but i think they look all cute and helpless |
| 04:05.52 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: yeah. but they will be even cuter with hair! |
| 04:06.54 | Pogovina | yep. i can't wait!! |
| 04:06.59 | Pogovina | did you see the pic from today? |
| 04:07.16 | AWOSLappy | Yes. |
| 04:07.25 | AWOSLappy | I just looked 54 minutes ago. |
| 04:07.33 | AWOSLappy | it's 20:06, and I looked at 19:10 |
| 04:07.39 | Pogovina | coolies |
| 04:07.44 | AWOSLappy | well, tbh, it's 00:06 |
| 04:07.49 | AWOSLappy | this stupid laptop is four hours off >_> |
| 04:08.01 | Pogovina | i'm glad i got to take them outside and get a decent pic today, yesterdays pic was lame |
| 04:09.56 | Pogovina | brb |
| 04:13.02 | Pogovina | back |
| 04:22.31 | pinpoint | im stressed. I have a feeling that my product wont please the client. |
| 04:22.42 | pinpoint | but thats just me, what do most of you do under this situations? |
| 04:30.07 | pinpoint | nice, everyone ran away :) |
| 04:32.54 | RudyValencia | pinpoint: suggest that its in beta? |
| 04:33.46 | pinpoint | its a video, i told them its a complete draft |
| 04:33.55 | pinpoint | they already know, thats why i sent a pre |
| 04:34.02 | RudyValencia | ah |
| 04:34.10 | altoid | pinpoint: can you do anything to improve it? |
| 04:34.15 | RudyValencia | don't sweat it |
| 04:34.25 | pinpoint | altoid: did some improvements |
| 04:34.39 | altoid | pinpoint: then stop worrying about it and put on a confident smile :) |
| 04:35.01 | pinpoint | okie |
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| 04:35.53 | DrakeDragonwick | Hey! |
| 04:36.10 | DrakeDragonwick | I can't see what I'm typing, but hey :D |
| 04:37.07 | pinpoint | huh |
| 04:37.10 | pinpoint | i see it. :) |
| 04:37.18 | pinpoint | you window break? |
| 04:37.19 | DrakeDragonwick | I know, but my monitor went out. |
| 04:37.32 | pinpoint | so how do you know when to reply? |
| 04:37.52 | DrakeDragonwick | I'm sitting next to someone else in this channel |
| 04:37.59 | DrakeDragonwick | so I can see his screen. |
| 04:38.02 | pinpoint | lol |
| 04:38.08 | altoid | quick, everyone /ctcp or /msg DrakeDragonwick >_> |
| 04:38.17 | RudyValencia | it be me |
| 04:38.23 | pinpoint | ah |
| 04:38.25 | pinpoint | class? |
| 04:38.27 | RudyValencia | he's scraping my screen |
| 04:38.35 | RudyValencia | no |
| 04:38.40 | RudyValencia | just in the same room |
| 04:38.45 | DrakeDragonwick | Hehe. |
| 04:38.55 | DrakeDragonwick | Colors aren't working? :( |
| 04:38.58 | pinpoint | o_O |
| 04:39.01 | pinpoint | couple? |
| 04:39.06 | DrakeDragonwick | If they were, you'd be seeing green text |
| 04:39.15 | altoid | you guys totally need new monitors |
| 04:39.15 | DrakeDragonwick | Nah, I'm his friend |
| 04:39.27 | pinpoint | oh, sorry. |
| 04:39.28 | pinpoint | cool |
| 04:39.41 | pinpoint | i have a small room that i rent from a house |
| 04:39.42 | DrakeDragonwick | RudyValencia: Got another monitor? |
| 04:39.47 | RudyValencia | yep |
| 04:39.49 | pinpoint | only one comp. :) |
| 04:39.52 | DrakeDragonwick | Plug it in :D |
| 04:39.57 | altoid | is it bad that i hooked up my external LCD just so i could see my wallpaper? |
| 04:40.50 | RudyValencia | hm, I'll let him ssh from my good monitor |
| 04:41.10 | pinpoint | altoid: no... |
| 04:41.15 | DrakeDragonwick | Aaahhh... |
| 04:41.19 | pinpoint | are you obsessed with wallies? |
| 04:41.21 | pinpoint | :) |
| 04:41.21 | DrakeDragonwick | Now I can see :D |
| 04:41.37 | altoid | pinpoint: am i obsessed with what? |
| 04:41.37 | DrakeDragonwick | Yay! |
| 04:41.50 | pinpoint | wallpapers |
| 04:41.56 | altoid | not really |
| 04:42.03 | pinpoint | no, its not bad |
| 04:42.04 | DrakeDragonwick | Gee thanks, RudyValencia! |
| 04:42.08 | altoid | but it's a pretty girl, prettier than anything else i see in my room |
| 04:42.12 | pinpoint | you simply wanted to check you cool wally |
| 04:42.25 | pinpoint | altoid: then in that case. Nope |
| 04:42.27 | pinpoint | its all cool |
| 04:42.37 | altoid | however, i connected an external LCD instead of minimizing all windows, and i'm not sure if that makes me super-lazy or just...silly >_> |
| 04:42.58 | RudyValencia | nah just cool |
| 04:43.03 | pinpoint | altoid: LOL |
| 04:43.16 | pinpoint | silly wabbit! |
| 04:43.19 | pinpoint | tricks are for kids! |
| 04:43.49 | altoid | actually, i should minimize all windows on my lappy, too |
| 04:43.59 | altoid | and then i'll have TWO pretty girl faces in my room! |
| 04:44.17 | pinpoint | altoid: windows/linux? |
| 04:44.24 | altoid | xp at the moment |
| 04:44.37 | pinpoint | window key+m to minimize all at once |
| 04:44.41 | altoid | yeah, i know |
| 04:44.46 | pinpoint | :) |
| 04:44.50 | altoid | it messes up my taskbar, though |
| 04:45.05 | pinpoint | how so? |
| 04:45.07 | altoid | which makes my OCDness level skyrocket and then it's al bad times |
| 04:45.24 | pinpoint | OCDness? o_O |
| 04:45.28 | altoid | well, i made the mistake of installing microsoft's multi-desktop tool for xp...and nothing's ever worked right since |
| 04:45.51 | pinpoint | just like *nix |
| 04:45.53 | pinpoint | heh |
| 04:46.07 | altoid | i've had better luck with gnome, xfce, and kde |
| 04:46.17 | pinpoint | back in the days, nvidia had such a tool in their software |
| 04:46.31 | pinpoint | it would let me jump to new desktops using their card. |
| 04:47.07 | altoid | that's nifty |
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| 05:11.18 | altoid | http://www.explosm.net/comics/720/ |
| 05:17.24 | pinpoint | LOL |
| 05:35.17 | altoid | mmmmmmmmm, strawberries |
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| 10:22.41 | essybot | ::denny:: Meanwhile, in non flat-buying news... @ http://dennyd.livejournal.com/641422.html |
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| 10:59.42 | essybot | ::denny:: This News Just In @ http://dennyd.livejournal.com/634203.html |
| 10:59.42 | essybot | ::denny:: Pros and cons @ http://dennyd.livejournal.com/638669.html |
| 11:10.25 | essybot | ::denny:: Flat hunting... @ http://dennyd.livejournal.com/637457.html |
| 11:10.25 | essybot | ::denny:: Too busy living it to document it... @ http://dennyd.livejournal.com/640054.html |
| 11:10.25 | essybot | ::denny:: Home, home on the range... @ http://dennyd.livejournal.com/640909.html |
| 11:21.24 | Pogovina | woo, denny is a journaling MACHINE |
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| 16:18.24 | essybot | ::Pogovina:: Lovelorn and lost @ http://pogovina.livejournal.com/56101.html |
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| 17:20.13 | essybot | ::denny:: Heh. @ http://dennyd.livejournal.com/642190.html |
| 17:22.05 | essybot | ::altoid:: Kitty! @ http://blog.sw33t.net/archive/kitty/ |
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| 17:46.17 | essybot | ::altoid:: Kitty! @ http://blog.sw33t.net/archive/kitty/ |
| 17:52.23 | Karlprof | altoid: "OH NOES! YOU ARE DISABLED ME WITH HEAD KISSINGS! ... IS OK, I HAS SOME FREE TIME." |
| 17:52.28 | Karlprof | Right? |
| 17:52.58 | essybot | ::Milami:: Unknown @ http://milami-sinthya.livejournal.com/10137.html |
| 17:53.22 | altoid | Karlprof: basically |
| 17:53.52 | altoid | took me 3 tries to get all the html right, though >_< |
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| 18:40.31 | CBG | work SUCKS. |
| 18:42.26 | forcerain | hey guys :) |
| 18:42.35 | pleia2 | 'lo forcerain! |
| 18:42.44 | forcerain | heya princess ^.^ |
| 18:42.57 | CBG | how's everyone doing? |
| 18:42.58 | Pogovina | :D |
| 18:43.06 | CBG | long time no see, Pogovina :) |
| 18:43.10 | Pogovina | good, you? |
| 18:43.15 | forcerain | not bad, you? |
| 18:43.17 | forcerain | lol |
| 18:43.18 | Pogovina | yes, it has been too long |
| 18:44.34 | CBG | i've been better... first day at work... sat in an office all day with a guy telling me what a great company I was going to work for and all the health and safety crap... |
| 18:44.48 | CBG | it felt like school all over again... just when I thought I had left that behind me. |
| 18:44.59 | Pogovina | awww :( |
| 18:45.07 | Pogovina | new work stuff blows |
| 18:45.14 | CBG | yeah |
| 18:45.18 | pleia2 | ugh, I hate that orientation stuff |
| 18:45.30 | pleia2 | my last job had it, and I got about 50 pounds of paperwork |
| 18:45.31 | CBG | gotta go back for more tomorrow. 17 hours of this crap |
| 18:45.40 | Pogovina | yikes |
| 18:45.40 | CBG | my job is only 12 hours a week. LOL :| |
| 18:45.46 | Pogovina | sheesh |
| 18:45.57 | CBG | oh the irony :( |
| 18:46.16 | pleia2 | heh, that sucks |
| 18:47.00 | CBG | the worst part was listening to this one guys voice all day with no music. |
| 18:47.13 | CBG | normally I'm at my imac ALL day with music running probably 80% of the time. |
| 18:47.21 | CBG | the rest of the time I'm on teamspeak... |
| 18:47.33 | CBG | so I am REALLY digging just listening to itunes now |
| 18:48.20 | Pogovina | music at work ftw |
| 18:48.32 | CBG | not likely on a deli counter ;) |
| 18:48.42 | Pogovina | aww, bummage |
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| 18:53.35 | awilcox | I'm awake \o/ |
| 18:54.01 | forcerain | morning awilcox lol |
| 18:54.02 | forcerain | :P |
| 18:54.07 | awilcox | :) |
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| 19:25.24 | awilcox | welcome back deryni :) |
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| 19:25.52 | deryni | Thanks, stupid router needing to reset to make a change. |
| 19:26.12 | awilcox | deryni: hah |
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| 19:43.27 | essybot | ::denny:: Um... @ http://dennyd.livejournal.com/642384.html |
| 19:45.21 | essybot | ::Pogovina:: Grr, snarl, grr. @ http://pogovina.livejournal.com/56320.html |
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| 19:48.11 | jbot | moos at netscape for not doing CSS right on livejournal |
| 19:48.17 | FrancoGG | \o/ :D |
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| 19:50.43 | AWOSLappy | :D |
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| 19:57.56 | essybot | ::Pogovina:: Grr, snarl, grr. @ http://pogovina.livejournal.com/56320.html |
| 20:00.17 | Pogovina | people suck. |
| 20:00.42 | RudyValencia | AWOSLappy! |
| 20:01.14 | RudyValencia | How are 'ya? |
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| 20:20.31 | Pogovina | My OTHER rat just had another baby- 2 days after having the stillborn one. SHE ATE IT!!!?!!!??!! |
| 20:20.40 | Pogovina | right in front of my kids!!!! |
| 20:20.44 | Pogovina | aaaaarg |
| 20:20.49 | tonyyarusso | eew |
| 20:20.58 | Pogovina | totally traumatizing |
| 20:20.59 | JonathanD | lovely. |
| 20:21.03 | pleia2 | :( |
| 20:21.09 | Pogovina | i told her she was a BAD BAD MOMMY |
| 20:21.16 | JonathanD | I'll say. |
| 20:21.26 | JonathanD | Eating young is pretty high on the "bad mommy" list. |
| 20:21.38 | Pogovina | i have no idea if the 2nd baby was stillborn or not, it was half gone by the time i got out there |
| 20:22.06 | Pogovina | i do know that it was teeny compared to normal babies |
| 20:22.22 | Pogovina | freaking animals... grrrrr |
| 20:22.36 | Pogovina | my bad day just got so much worse. |
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| 20:24.17 | Pogovina | I hate my rat right now |
| 20:24.19 | awilcox | :) |
| 20:24.26 | awilcox | Pogovina: aww, why? |
| 20:24.29 | awilcox | what is [s]he doing? |
| 20:24.37 | Pogovina | she had another baby. then ate it in front of my kids |
| 20:24.45 | Pogovina | this is gonna cost me some therapy |
| 20:25.02 | Pogovina | this is the one that had a stillborn 2 days ago |
| 20:25.05 | awilcox | omg |
| 20:25.12 | awilcox | was it...alive? |
| 20:25.21 | awilcox | or was it another stillborn? |
| 20:25.27 | Pogovina | i dunno, it was half gone by the time i got out to the living room |
| 20:25.34 | Pogovina | :'( |
| 20:25.34 | awilcox | yikes. |
| 20:26.09 | Erroneous | rabbits (particularly first-time mothers) occasionally engage in filial cannibalism too. sometimes it's stress, sometimes inexperience. |
| 20:26.09 | Pogovina | it's natural for animals to eat their young sometimes, but DUDE, in front of my kids!! |
| 20:26.10 | awilcox | that's terrible. |
| 20:26.27 | Erroneous | just remind your kids that they're lucky you don't eat them :P |
| 20:26.33 | awilcox | Erroneous: lol |
| 20:26.36 | Pogovina | Erroneous, my rabbits never did it. My other rat had 12 babies, no problem |
| 20:27.02 | Pogovina | lol Erroneous, maybe after some therapy sessions. One of my kids is a vegitarian, she's all freaked out |
| 20:27.20 | awilcox | I think maybe you were wrong about her being good for breeding? :P |
| 20:27.32 | Pogovina | i didnt breed her on purpose :o |
| 20:27.49 | tonyyarusso | haha, vegetarian kid meets nature...I love it |
| 20:27.51 | Erroneous | I had one doe who did (twice) without provokation, and one who did when our neighbor's dog got loose |
| 20:27.52 | Pogovina | but of the 2 females, i thought she'd be the better mom. she's much sweeter and loving |
| 20:28.10 | Erroneous | loving you and loving a baby rat are pretty different things :P |
| 20:28.27 | Pogovina | yep, apparently so. the stillborn she had 2 days ago... she tried to nurse it |
| 20:28.30 | awilcox | tonyyarusso: lol. you're terrible...but lol. |
| 20:28.39 | Pogovina | tonyyarusso, that's mean!! |
| 20:28.50 | tonyyarusso | awilcox: I know. I have a sister who's a veg head too, and she makes me laugh. |
| 20:28.51 | awilcox | Pogovina: maybe she was pissed. "Oh *now* I get a live one?" |
| 20:29.21 | Erroneous | not really mean, just realistic. nature is violent. |
| 20:29.41 | pleia2 | Pogovina: rats are funny, we had a female who was quite the crankie critter - she had 13 babies and they ALL survived |
| 20:29.45 | pleia2 | it was insane |
| 20:29.51 | pleia2 | and fun :) |
| 20:29.53 | Pogovina | tonyyarusso, she's only 10, chose to be a veg because she cant stand the thought of eating a cute fuzzy animal. I couldn't force her to eat meat when she came to me at 8 years old and told me it hurt her heart to eat animals |
| 20:30.15 | Pogovina | awilcox, i dunno what her problem is. I hope she doesnt have any more in there |
| 20:30.22 | tonyyarusso | Pogovina: I guess...it just amuses me, since we're made to. |
| 20:31.09 | Pogovina | pleia2, i wanted Juliette to pass on her gentle nature and tolerance of kids, Annika isnt as tolerant and gentle... |
| 20:31.14 | awilcox | Pogovina: this is one of those times where the money doesn't matter as much...maybe you should ping your vet... |
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| 20:31.34 | pleia2 | Pogovina: that's odd, our rat that had 13 babies was named Juliette |
| 20:31.45 | awilcox | Pogovina: okay..."tolerance of kids"...lol... |
| 20:32.03 | Pogovina | i know, i explained that whole thing to her, but the kid was 8 and had really thought it all out. she even gave up meals that she loved. she likes the taste of meat... just cant stand the thought that meat=animals. But she never judges us for it |
| 20:32.31 | awilcox | Pogovina: smart kid, to be honest. |
| 20:33.03 | Pogovina | awilcox, when i palpitated a few days ago, i thought i only felt 1 lump in her belly- which was obviously this baby |
| 20:33.24 | awilcox | Pogovina: hmm, okay ten |
| 20:33.26 | awilcox | *then |
| 20:33.29 | Pogovina | she's an incredibly smart and mature little girl |
| 20:34.24 | Pogovina | i'm just gonna put Juliette on 24 hour watch again... here comes another sleepless night |
| 20:34.38 | Pogovina | i cant help but wonder if she had an oxytocin problem |
| 20:36.03 | L4m3r | my sister became a vegetard after seeing one of those dang PETA videos |
| 20:36.09 | pleia2 | ugh, PETA |
| 20:36.20 | L4m3r | seriously |
| 20:36.29 | Pogovina | jeebus, i just realized i wrote "palpitated" not "palpated" |
| 20:36.40 | Pogovina | i'm tired. i stayed up all night last night |
| 20:36.48 | L4m3r | Psychos for the Eradication of Tasty Animals |
| 20:36.56 | Pogovina | i second that UGH of PETA |
| 20:37.59 | L4m3r | oh, and tonyyarusso, I bought a new bike on monday ^_^ |
| 20:38.15 | tonyyarusso | L4m3r: sweet! what is it? |
| 20:38.23 | L4m3r | 2006 GT "ruckus trail" |
| 20:38.36 | awilcox | you misspelled "PITA" :P |
| 20:38.38 | tonyyarusso | I think I may have worked on one of those recentlyish |
| 20:38.50 | pleia2 | mmm pita :d |
| 20:38.56 | L4m3r | a hardtail, but with a LOT of travel in the front shock, big tires, strong frame, and hydraulic discs :D |
| 20:39.29 | awilcox | Pogovina: I knew what you meant :P though with all this stress, you palpitated too :P |
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| 20:44.27 | Pogovina | my heart sure did |
| 20:44.58 | awilcox | hmm. interesting article. |
| 20:45.16 | awilcox | now at least I know what Pogovina is talking about. |
| 20:45.25 | Pogovina | oxytocin? |
| 20:45.37 | Pogovina | interesting stuff, that oxytocin |
| 20:45.39 | awilcox | yep. |
| 20:46.02 | awilcox | I don't trust people and am always kinda tired, which suggests I may have a deficiency too :P |
| 20:46.23 | awilcox | but then that's just my hypochondriac side talking. |
| 20:46.44 | Pogovina | lol, her deficiency just caused weak contractions and poor nurturing instinct |
| 20:47.26 | Pogovina | and likely low to no lactation |
| 20:47.26 | awilcox | yep. |
| 20:47.26 | awilcox | Wiki agrees. "rat females given oxytocin antagonists after giving birth do not exhibit typical maternal behavior." |
| 20:47.46 | Pogovina | oxytocin is the magical "mommy" drug |
| 20:47.59 | awilcox | That seems to be what the article says. |
| 20:48.18 | Pogovina | i was given oxytocin during 2 of my births and i about mothered everyone to death afterwards |
| 20:48.34 | awilcox | lol |
| 20:49.18 | Pogovina | Spldart said it was kinda freaky. I was cleaning like mad, cooking weeks worth of food and storing it for later and just hugging and kissing everything |
| 20:49.34 | awilcox | Pogovina: hahaha |
| 20:50.08 | Pogovina | which one? |
| 20:50.21 | Pogovina | the angry ranty one? |
| 20:50.23 | awilcox | 4livejournal. |
| 20:50.29 | awilcox | s/4// |
| 20:50.36 | awilcox | Pogovina: the one with rita and james. |
| 20:50.48 | Pogovina | the love letter one? |
| 20:50.48 | awilcox | the ranty one was crystal clear. |
| 20:50.53 | awilcox | no, the one before that. |
| 20:50.59 | awilcox | July, I believe. |
| 20:51.19 | awilcox | FPL beat you to it, mvironwork. |
| 20:51.38 | awilcox | (Florida Power and Light, aka Freaking Piss Hell). |
| 20:53.13 | awilcox | http://pogovina.livejournal.com/53249.html |
| 20:53.20 | awilcox | ^ That one, Pogovina. |
| 20:54.04 | Pogovina | that's a conversation between me and Charlie |
| 20:54.14 | awilcox | okay, so you are Rita. |
| 20:54.50 | Pogovina | after he stood me up, then refused to answer my calls, blocked me from messaging programs and acted like a top notch jerk |
| 20:55.09 | awilcox | okay. so is he spldart? or is Jim spldart? or is spldart someone else? |
| 20:55.16 | Pogovina | James=spldat |
| 20:55.18 | Pogovina | err |
| 20:55.20 | Pogovina | spldart |
| 20:55.31 | Pogovina | Jim is my ex husbands father |
| 20:55.45 | essybot | ::Pogovina:: Lovelorn and lost @ http://pogovina.livejournal.com/56101.html |
| 20:55.45 | essybot | ::Pogovina:: AWWW GAWWWWD!!!! @ http://pogovina.livejournal.com/56778.html |
| 20:55.58 | Pogovina | well, hello essybot. nice of you to join us |
| 20:56.02 | awilcox | lol. |
| 20:56.25 | awilcox | I already read Lovelorn and lost like...an hour ago |
| 20:56.40 | Pogovina | i edited one of the tags, silly essybot |
| 20:57.45 | Pogovina | So Charlie is just Charlie, James is spldart is hubby and Jim is ex father in law |
| 20:58.18 | awilcox | ah okay. |
| 20:58.24 | tonyyarusso | and I'm Superman |
| 20:58.27 | Pogovina | hehe |
| 20:58.31 | Pogovina | and I'm Rita |
| 20:59.16 | awilcox | and I'm the UNIX sysadmin that reads all the messages flowing between you guys. |
| 20:59.26 | awilcox | :P |
| 20:59.59 | Pogovina | and all the drama |
| 21:03.58 | awilcox | I am *still* not in all my channels >_> |
| 21:04.05 | Pogovina | ?; |
| 21:04.09 | Pogovina | err |
| 21:04.09 | awilcox | I can't remember what window 13 and 16 were.' |
| 21:04.10 | Pogovina | :) |
| 21:04.14 | awilcox | s/'// |
| 21:04.17 | awilcox | >_> |
| 21:04.17 | Argooon | <_< |
| 21:04.26 | awilcox | Ahhh, that's right! |
| 21:05.07 | awilcox | There, now I have all 16 windows all nice and happy again. |
| 21:07.23 | tonyyarusso | awilcox: just look at the join/part messages |
| 21:07.33 | Pogovina | ok. it's wine time. brb |
| 21:07.34 | awilcox | tonyyarusso: ? |
| 21:07.40 | awilcox | Pogovina: well deserved. bye! |
| 21:08.09 | awilcox | tonyyarusso: the power went out. there are no part messages. |
| 21:08.10 | tonyyarusso | awilcox: That's what I do when my windows drop from a disconnect - I'll still have the convo from before sitting there, which includes a line of "billy_bob has joined ##essy" or whatever |
| 21:08.15 | tonyyarusso | awilcox: aaaah |
| 21:08.16 | tonyyarusso | nvm |
| 21:08.27 | awilcox | :P |
| 21:08.46 | awilcox | I didn't remember #fvwm or #oszero. |
| 21:08.48 | awilcox | I've got them now. |
| 21:09.10 | tonyyarusso | heh |
| 21:09.15 | tonyyarusso | oszero? |
| 21:09.25 | awilcox | tonyyarusso: vendu's operating system |
| 21:09.40 | awilcox | we talk about all kinds of optimising things there. |
| 21:10.38 | awilcox | c/~ and now, I'm calling all angels... c/~ |
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| 21:11.28 | awilcox | Pumpernickel: I can't figure why...but for some reason I always think of the Smashing Pumpkins when I see your nick. |
| 21:12.10 | Pogovina | Muse=good |
| 21:12.33 | awilcox | s/../.../ |
| 21:12.36 | awilcox | >_ |
| 21:12.36 | Argooon | Dunno: ... |
| 21:12.43 | awilcox | s/>_/>_>/ |
| 21:12.51 | awilcox | dangit, stupid keyboard. |
| 21:13.04 | awilcox | after 8 years of faithful use, it's finally not owkng well. |
| 21:13.08 | awilcox | s/owkng/working/ |
| 21:14.01 | Pumpernickel | ^^ |
| 21:15.00 | Pumpernickel | Pogovina: Do you know any bands like Muse? I haven't found anyone doing anything really close to what they do. |
| 21:15.51 | Pogovina | Pumpernickel, no, sorry :( |
| 21:16.04 | Pumpernickel | ah well |
| 21:16.22 | Pumpernickel | They still own, by themselves. |
| 21:16.37 | Pogovina | indeed |
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| 21:18.23 | AWOSLappy | Dangit. I saw 11:59 < Pogovina> people suck. and then everything went out. |
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| 21:18.37 | Pogovina | read my rant in my journal |
| 21:19.04 | Pogovina | i was accused of doing creepy stalkereque things |
| 21:19.17 | Pogovina | stalkeresque* |
| 21:19.28 | AWOSLappy | strange. |
| 21:19.35 | AWOSLappy | who were you accused of stalking? |
| 21:19.40 | AWOSLappy | what channel? |
| 21:19.45 | AWOSLappy | not this one I hope :o |
| 21:19.57 | Pogovina | no, in a chat room i go to sometimes |
| 21:20.03 | Pogovina | not on irc |
| 21:20.06 | AWOSLappy | oh okay. |
| 21:20.10 | Pogovina | it was stupid. |
| 21:20.23 | AWOSLappy | Oh yeah. I read that while I was offline. |
| 21:20.26 | AWOSLappy | That blog posty thing. |
| 21:20.32 | jh` | ~stalk Pogovina |
| 21:20.32 | jbot | ACTION furtively infiltrates Pogovina's shadows and when Pogovina is turned away jumps out to take a picture with his camera phone! |
| 21:20.38 | AWOSLappy | lol |
| 21:20.45 | Pogovina | then the woman apologised for offending me, but goes on to say that maybe she's being paranoid but feels she has a reason to be so.... wtf |
| 21:21.10 | Pogovina | that just REoffended me. |
| 21:21.23 | Pogovina | i think i'm going to |
| 21:21.35 | AWOSLappy | Same thing happened to me in ##socialites, kind of. |
| 21:21.43 | Pogovina | they were really cool people but i dont think it's worth the drama. i freaking HATE drama |
| 21:22.12 | AWOSLappy | They were talking about very creepy disgusting things, and I told them I thought they were being creepy, and they started being creepy *at* me. So I just don't go there anymore. |
| 21:22.19 | Pogovina | :o |
| 21:22.35 | Pogovina | these people jus talk about normal stuff, work, family, pets, etc... |
| 21:22.48 | AWOSLappy | these people were talking about goatse and rape. |
| 21:22.53 | AWOSLappy | not exactly my cup of tea. |
| 21:22.56 | Pogovina | but thinking that i was copying their public chatlogs is just stupid |
| 21:22.56 | jh` | im a good stalker in bzflag |
| 21:23.11 | Pogovina | ew, AWOSLappy |
| 21:23.15 | AWOSLappy | I feel terrible just thinking about it. |
| 21:23.17 | AWOSLappy | yes, Pogovina. |
| 21:23.19 | Pogovina | jh, stealth? |
| 21:23.21 | jh` | you need to stalk the opponent for example in 1 versus 1 |
| 21:23.30 | AWOSLappy | jh`: bzflag is different :P |
| 21:23.45 | jh` | not stealth, just by moving behind his back etc. |
| 21:23.57 | jh` | hard to explain |
| 21:24.09 | AWOSLappy | jh`: I know what you mean :P |
| 21:24.16 | AWOSLappy | I've played against you, I think :P |
| 21:24.21 | jh` | yep |
| 21:24.25 | jh` | some time ago |
| 21:24.28 | AWOSLappy | yeah. |
| 21:24.32 | Pogovina | i know what you mean, spldart does that |
| 21:24.33 | AWOSLappy | I haven't bz'd in a loooong time. |
| 21:24.38 | AWOSLappy | months. |
| 21:24.43 | Pogovina | he's a sneaky fellah |
| 21:24.47 | AWOSLappy | hehe |
| 21:24.54 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: that gives me a radical idea. |
| 21:25.00 | Pogovina | ? |
| 21:25.00 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: go play bzflag and talk to him that way! |
| 21:25.05 | Pogovina | ha! |
| 21:25.14 | Pogovina | i suck so bad a bz |
| 21:25.18 | Pogovina | at* |
| 21:25.19 | AWOSLappy | awww. |
| 21:25.22 | AWOSLappy | I did too at first. |
| 21:25.40 | Pogovina | i prefer my sega genesis and sonic game :o |
| 21:25.46 | AWOSLappy | Sonic \o/ |
| 21:25.48 | Pogovina | or guitar hero on my ps2 |
| 21:25.49 | jh` | lol |
| 21:25.55 | AWOSLappy | hehe. |
| 21:26.00 | Pogovina | :D |
| 21:26.00 | jh` | you just have to get familiar with it |
| 21:26.10 | AWOSLappy | ya know, just...fyi...spldart hangs on #bzflag and talks almost every night. |
| 21:26.16 | AWOSLappy | you could query him. |
| 21:26.27 | Pogovina | yeah, but i have ADD and get frustrated easily, especially when I die every 2 seconds |
| 21:26.41 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: easy! lemme teach you! |
| 21:26.48 | AWOSLappy | I've got a "teach people" server set up. |
| 21:26.48 | Pogovina | i know he does, I dont query him because i harass him in the flesh |
| 21:26.54 | AWOSLappy | oh lol |
| 21:27.03 | AWOSLappy | I thought he was the one that won't reply to your emails. |
| 21:27.08 | Pogovina | i go and mess with his hair and stuff while he plays |
| 21:27.18 | Pogovina | yes, he doesnt reply to my emails |
| 21:27.25 | Pogovina | cause he's a POOPHEAD |
| 21:27.40 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: ya know, mum is the same way. mum won't reply to my emails, and she says it's silly I email her, because I talk to her every day. |
| 21:27.50 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: rofl!!!! |
| 21:28.06 | AWOSLappy | "POOPHEAD" looks so hilarious in this font |
| 21:28.29 | Pogovina | yeah, but how hard is it to click "reply", type "i love you too, you dork" and click "send"? |
| 21:28.49 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: hehe, hard to hang up the telephone when you live in the same house... :P |
| 21:29.00 | AWOSLappy | YES, I AM a stereotypical geek. |
| 21:29.20 | Pogovina | nuthin wrong wiff dat |
| 21:29.25 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: I know. |
| 21:29.27 | Pogovina | :D |
| 21:29.31 | Pogovina | aww |
| 21:29.34 | AWOSLappy | :) |
| 21:29.36 | Erroneous | when I lived there, I installed an IM on her machine because she complained about having to walk across the house to tell me dinner was on :) |
| 21:29.42 | Pogovina | ONOES! |
| 21:29.46 | Pogovina | out of wine. :( |
| 21:29.51 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: lololololololol |
| 21:30.02 | Erroneous | Pogovina: http://www.winehq.org/ - download more ;) |
| 21:30.08 | Pogovina | hehe |
| 21:30.16 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: literally rofl. |
| 21:30.43 | AWOSLappy | I fell out of my chair. |
| 21:30.55 | Erroneous | you need a better chair :P |
| 21:30.55 | AWOSLappy | there isn't an acronym for that one |
| 21:31.03 | AWOSLappy | FOMCLOL! |
| 21:31.09 | AWOSLappy | Fell Out My Chair Laughing Out Loud. |
| 21:31.09 | Pogovina | HAHAHA |
| 21:31.43 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: haha, no arms on this chair :P |
| 21:32.33 | AWOSLappy | Pogovina: hehe. |
| 21:32.38 | AWOSLappy | you will fall out of your bed :P |
| 21:32.45 | AWOSLappy | hrms, so you are on a lappy too? |
| 21:33.14 | Erroneous | I think I'd get some odd looks if I started laughing out loud, let alone falling out of my chair |
| 21:33.14 | Pogovina | nope, Spldart built a compy into the bedside table |
| 21:33.28 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: well at work, yes :P |
| 21:33.30 | Pogovina | it's pretty sweet |
| 21:33.46 | Erroneous | considering that there's nothing all that funny in ISO 10303-224:2006(E) |
| 21:33.58 | AWOSLappy | Aw, poor Erroneous. |
| 21:34.01 | AWOSLappy | Stuck reading ISO docs. |
| 21:34.04 | AWOSLappy | Which one is that? |
| 21:34.08 | Erroneous | tell me about it :| |
| 21:34.14 | AWOSLappy | doesn't look familiar, and to a OS dev, that's strange. |
| 21:34.25 | Erroneous | "Product data representation and exchange: Application protocol: Mechanical product definition for process planning using machining features" |
| 21:34.36 | AWOSLappy | O_o?! |
| 21:35.06 | AWOSLappy | see, "et al" saves me from hugflooding. |
| 21:35.15 | AWOSLappy | :D |
| 21:35.31 | Pogovina | awww |
| 21:35.50 | AWOSLappy | 13:26 * AWOSLappy huggles and hugs starshine |
| 21:35.55 | AWOSLappy | :D |
| 21:35.57 | AWOSLappy | thankee! |
| 21:36.01 | Pogovina | anytime |
| 21:36.15 | tonyyarusso | http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/SCO_is_Toast_Court_Rules_Novell_owns_the_UNIX_copyrights |
| 21:36.34 | AWOSLappy | what the NSFE |
| 21:37.11 | tonyyarusso | hrm? |
| 21:38.20 | AWOSLappy | aren't we screwed, because microsloth bought Novell |
| 21:38.22 | AWOSLappy | ? |
| 21:38.51 | AWOSLappy | "NSFE" = Not Safe for ##essy. as in, I would have said a bad word, but I didn't. |
| 21:38.58 | tonyyarusso | AWOSLappy: they didn't buy it though - they entered into a "partnership" |
| 21:39.06 | AWOSLappy | tonyyarusso: it's enough... |
| 21:39.13 | tonyyarusso | Otherwise, yeah, we'd be toast. As it stands, there's little they can really do |
| 21:39.16 | Erroneous | they have a patent crosslicensing agreement |
| 21:39.18 | tonyyarusso | (or they already would have) |
| 21:39.35 | Erroneous | the other direction would have been far worse - SCO is indirectly funded by microsoft |
| 21:39.59 | Erroneous | novell has a lot of real open-source advocates in it |
| 21:40.47 | Erroneous | unfortunately, they've consistently mismanaged and driven into the ground every decent product they've had, and show no signs of doing differently with suse |
| 21:41.34 | AWOSLappy | *sigh*. |
| 21:41.52 | Erroneous | but novell really isn't evil, just incompotent |
| 21:41.56 | AWOSLappy | right. |
| 21:42.03 | Erroneous | sco is evil |
| 21:42.07 | AWOSLappy | correct. |
| 21:42.30 | AWOSLappy | (short story is SCO was originally a division of microsoft.) |
| 21:42.40 | AWOSLappy | long story is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_Group |
| 21:43.57 | Erroneous | wine is better than winex |
| 21:44.06 | AWOSLappy | I need DirectX support, Erroneous. |
| 21:44.16 | Erroneous | wine has better directx support than winex |
| 21:44.18 | AWOSLappy | I really like WINE but I require DirectX |
| 21:44.27 | AWOSLappy | this isn't even FOR my workstation, it's for a client |
| 21:45.00 | Erroneous | as I said, wine has better directx support than winex. more complete and less application-specific |
| 21:45.03 | AWOSLappy | lol, I always found that funny. |
| 21:45.16 | AWOSLappy | the pkgsrc people put WINE in emulators/wine. |
| 21:45.25 | AWOSLappy | they obviously don't realise "NE" = "Not an Emulator". |
| 21:45.33 | Erroneous | I'm sure they realize it |
| 21:45.40 | Erroneous | they just don't care :) |
| 21:45.44 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: I'll try WINE first, but I dont know if it will work |
| 21:45.50 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: hehe, they should put it in compat/ |
| 21:45.51 | Erroneous | what are you trying to run? |
| 21:46.27 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: my *client* is converting from Windows to (any FOSS operating system goes here) and has a specific game that they play. |
| 21:46.31 | AWOSLappy | called "Danger By Design". |
| 21:46.41 | AWOSLappy | Not in the wine appdb, not in the winex appdb. |
| 21:47.12 | Erroneous | interesting. never heard of it, no good hits from the bug databases |
| 21:47.36 | AWOSLappy | yeah. |
| 21:47.46 | AWOSLappy | eww I *hate* compiling WINE >_> |
| 21:47.54 | Erroneous | 2006, so dx9. should work fine on wine. |
| 21:47.57 | AWOSLappy | it takes 90 minutes on a freaking Athlon64 |
| 21:48.16 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: mmkay. will try as soon as it...compiles.. |
| 21:48.20 | AWOSLappy | :-( |
| 21:48.42 | Erroneous | might have to install d3d9_nn.dll separately, a lot of silly installers "forget" to redistribute it |
| 21:48.56 | AWOSLappy | *is not on full-duplex |
| 21:49.11 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: I thought they said "never ever ever install a real directx on WINE" |
| 21:49.16 | Erroneous | correct |
| 21:49.19 | Erroneous | not directx |
| 21:49.25 | Erroneous | just d3d9_nn.dll |
| 21:49.29 | AWOSLappy | oh okay. |
| 21:49.29 | Erroneous | shader precompilers |
| 21:49.38 | Erroneous | i.e. d3d9_26.dll |
| 21:49.40 | AWOSLappy | can I pull it from a WinXP install I have buried somewhere? |
| 21:49.42 | Erroneous | d3d9_31.dll |
| 21:49.47 | Erroneous | or whatever one it needs |
| 21:49.47 | AWOSLappy | oh oh okay |
| 21:50.35 | AWOSLappy | fontforge? |
| 21:50.52 | Erroneous | yup, if you want decent truetype support you need fontforge |
| 21:50.52 | AWOSLappy | oh boy this will be one fun night. |
| 21:51.15 | Erroneous | binary packages are suggested :) |
| 21:51.37 | Erroneous | assuming you're using a decent distro |
| 21:51.43 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: heh. shoulda told me that BEFORE I started this |
| 21:51.54 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: NetBSD 4.0_BETA2 |
| 21:52.29 | Erroneous | heh, got accelerated graphics drivers for that? |
| 21:52.45 | AWOSLappy | I have the "radeon" driver, but this is the testbed |
| 21:52.54 | AWOSLappy | the actual real workstation is not even prepped yet |
| 21:53.07 | Erroneous | d3d will be slow as heck |
| 21:53.16 | AWOSLappy | i.e. if this doesn't work I will try fedora. if this doesn't work I will try openbsd. |
| 21:53.23 | Erroneous | might not even work, we rely on certain shader stuff to be present in the drivers |
| 21:53.32 | AWOSLappy | I keep going until I get to an OS that can run this stupid game. |
| 21:53.35 | Erroneous | I think mesa includes software shaders that'll do the job now |
| 21:53.54 | Erroneous | you'll have better luck with linux (or freebsd, though even that is a bit questionable) |
| 21:54.13 | Erroneous | you'll get better support from the winehq people on linux too |
| 21:54.21 | AWOSLappy | well it's getting *tried* on NetBSD first. |
| 21:54.36 | AWOSLappy | mainly due to the fact that I already spent three days configuring this stupid thing. |
| 21:54.39 | AWOSLappy | oh man |
| 21:54.41 | AWOSLappy | bye Erroneous. |
| 22:33.15 | *** join/##essy Karlprof (i=Karlprof@freenode/helper/pdpc.student.karlprof) |
| 22:45.44 | AWOSLappy | yay |
| 22:45.49 | AWOSLappy | WINE is FINALLY starting. |
| 22:45.59 | AWOSLappy | ===> Building for wine |
| 23:14.34 | RudyValencia | ooh |
| 23:14.35 | RudyValencia | :D |
| 23:15.41 | Pumpernickel | aah |
| 23:16.45 | AWOSLappy | woot |
| 23:16.52 | AWOSLappy | I just took a speed test and got 87 words per minute |
| 23:18.22 | AWOSLappy | :O |
| 23:18.28 | AWOSLappy | I took another one and got 113 words per minute |
| 23:20.19 | AWOSLappy | another one gives me 93. |
| 23:20.25 | AWOSLappy | ~87+113+93/3 |
| 23:20.26 | jbot | 231 |
| 23:20.31 | AWOSLappy | >_> |
| 23:20.32 | Argooon | <_< |
| 23:20.37 | AWOSLappy | ~(87+113+93)/3 |
| 23:20.38 | jbot | 97.666666666667 |
| 23:20.43 | AWOSLappy | woot, /me likey |
| 23:25.50 | tonyyarusso | errrr, stupid question: |
| 23:25.59 | tonyyarusso | How do you put the little foam covers on iPod earbuds? |
| 23:26.13 | awilcox | tonyyarusso: lol. probably just slide on. |
| 23:26.27 | tonyyarusso | awilcox: It seems like the hole is too small though |
| 23:26.48 | Pumpernickel | Stretch them a bit, they'll bounce back. |
| 23:27.00 | awilcox | tonyyarusso: if you stretch them... |
| 23:27.01 | awilcox | er. |
| 23:27.03 | awilcox | yes. |
| 23:27.51 | tonyyarusso | Pumpernickel: they won't tear? |
| 23:28.13 | Pumpernickel | If you're careful, no. |
| 23:30.45 | awilcox | hi how do I install a rpm? |
| 23:30.48 | awilcox | "rm -rf /" |
| 23:30.49 | awilcox | thanks |
| 23:31.36 | awilcox | BTW. rm -rf / is not a good thing to do. |
| 23:31.53 | awilcox | tonyyarusso: gonna be here in an hour or so? |
| 23:32.32 | tonyyarusso | awilcox: Unless I'm eating dinner, in which case I'll be back after |
| 23:32.41 | awilcox | tonyyarusso: Just wondering. |
| 23:32.46 | awilcox | I may have a friend come in. |
| 23:33.01 | tonyyarusso | all righty |
| 23:33.06 | awilcox | and inchworm knows who I'm talking about :) |
| 23:33.43 | tonyyarusso | okay......now this sounds fishy ;) |
| 23:35.44 | awilcox | :P |
| 23:36.19 | tonyyarusso | moment of truth - earbuds are in, a track is loaded: will it play? |
| 23:36.38 | awilcox | :P |
| 23:37.13 | awilcox | the *clean* version. |
| 23:37.21 | awilcox | the safe-for-##essy version. |
| 23:37.41 | tonyyarusso | err, not finding stuff I loaded - hrm |
| 23:50.27 | inchworm | i'm a worm with a song, not overly long. sat down, just me and my earbuds to listen. tempo down, key is minor, and my eyes glisten. just me and a song and a bit of longing. |
| 23:50.41 | inchworm | ~stth starshine |
| 23:50.44 | jbot | ACTION stalks starshine for a long time and then sneaks to about 50 yards behind starshine, gets a running start and tacklehugs starshine to the ground, then tickles starshine until starshine is beyond all hope of rescue |
| 23:50.46 | tonyyarusso | starshine: Let's conjure a rainstorm! |
| 23:52.27 | tonyyarusso | All right, time for supper while Banshee, erm, converts my OGG files to something an iPod can use...duh |
| 23:52.44 | inchworm | transcoding? |
